Being told this is fairly reliable for info on the situation in Ukraine. let me know if it isn’t. https://liveuamap.com/

  • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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    3 years ago

    Hey is it normal for a country to just go "Alright, all dudes age 18-35, you cant leave you have to stay here to take up arms and fight trained soldiers"?

    The news here mentioned this so fucking casually that it barely even registered for me what they actually were saying, thats like super fucked up to order your civilians to do right? You're literally opening them up to be justifiably slaughtered.

    Edit: Oh when I google it says specifically reservists but the news over here literally just said "men" like any random dude of the right age is essentially being conscripted?

    Edit to the edit: Ok so further googling, all men ages 18-60 are banned from leaving the country under martial law, reservists are being conscripted but regular dudes are still being told by the president to come forward and be given weapons to fight.

      • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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        3 years ago

        Jesus christ, my brain sanitized it automatically cause I didnt wanna think it was that fucking bad yet accepted.

        • inshallah2 [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          I'm typing in these megas, listening to the news, and working all at the same time. I wasn't quite sure that CNN anchor said something like "Men can't leave the country..." I was almost certain that I must have misheard it because I'm crap at multitasking. But I googled and I was right.

          Silver lining: Am I getting better at multitasking?

      • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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        3 years ago

        Yeah I searched some more and that seems to be the situation, thats extremely fucked up.

        • Mother [any]
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          3 years ago

          I can’t imagine being pulled away from my family for some dumb bullshit unironically I would frag my officers then defect

          • Vncredleader
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            3 years ago

            Serious solidarity with the Ukrainian soldiers the past 2 days who have been defecting or laying down their weapons. They are braver than Zelensky

      • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        Wonder what they're doing to disabled/ill people, stuff like a spinal fusion isn't externally obvious aside from the scars of the operation, can walk just fine and even run in certain cases and everything fitness wise. Yet make someone like that carry a heavy backpack/rucksack like they do in the military, and their spine will be ground to nothing very quickly due to vastly reduced spinal compression.

        I know military recuiters in most countries won't touch someone with a back operation or fused spine, even with regular conscription or the bloodthirsty US recuiters. But the Ukrainian ghouls seem really desperate now.

    • PrideBoy [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Ever heard of the draft in the vietnam war? Now imagine what america would do if the war was on US soil not on the other side of the earth….

    • Shoegazer [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Hey is it normal for a country to just go “Alright, all dudes age 18-35, you cant leave you have to stay here to take up arms and fight trained soldiers”?

      Countless countries have enacted drafts before. It’s fucked, but it’s not new.

      • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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        3 years ago

        Yeah but like, I always assumed that everyone understood it to be like, proper training and arming and integration into the military and all that, not doing fucking volkssturm, I always thought that it was unanimous that the Volkssturm was bad as a general concept?