By the way “protests” in most western liberal democracies are a sham and your political work has to be more than that. Most of them are glorified photo ops for lib politicians and the leadership of captured unions.
Where I’m at it’s barely worth showing up as a commie org because everyone there is either already affiliated with one org or another or are terminally liberal (or both), so it’s not even a particularly good place to recruit or do outreach.
I’d like to see another version of this poll which lets people pick multiple options of “what forms of political organising have you participated in recently” because genuinely if it’s just going to protests and posting it isn’t enough.
Fair enough if you have legit reasons why you can’t do more, but if you aren’t just because you can’t be bothered or are scared someone will call you dumb because you haven’t read the last 6% of Lenin’s letters to Kruspkaya that you’re gonna get around to any day now, it’s really not like that. You’ll learn just as much from being in a good org with principled comrades as you will from theory.
Whoever you're mobilizing when the time comes, if you didn't do any organizing first you're not building a movement you're just walking around with people who already agree with you
That’s just human interaction. I’ve heard horror stories about local musicians. That doesn’t mean I’m never attending a concert again. Organizing people is sometimes like herding cats, but it’s also sometimes like feeling empowered and at home for the first time in your life. It’s worth incorporating your own experience into whatever critiques you have
I’d like to see another version of this poll which lets people pick multiple options of “what forms of political organising have you participated in recently” because genuinely if it’s just going to protests and posting it isn’t enough
I considered this, but even a poll this broad still got accused of fedposting. I was hoping to make it general enough that it wouldn’t scare people off and bias the results too much
By the way “protests” in most western liberal democracies are a sham and your political work has to be more than that. Most of them are glorified photo ops for lib politicians and the leadership of captured unions.
Where I’m at it’s barely worth showing up as a commie org because everyone there is either already affiliated with one org or another or are terminally liberal (or both), so it’s not even a particularly good place to recruit or do outreach.
I’d like to see another version of this poll which lets people pick multiple options of “what forms of political organising have you participated in recently” because genuinely if it’s just going to protests and posting it isn’t enough.
Fair enough if you have legit reasons why you can’t do more, but if you aren’t just because you can’t be bothered or are scared someone will call you dumb because you haven’t read the last 6% of Lenin’s letters to Kruspkaya that you’re gonna get around to any day now, it’s really not like that. You’ll learn just as much from being in a good org with principled comrades as you will from theory.
Yes, protests are not organizing, they are mobilizing, that is correct.
Yeh but when they’re only mobilising libs it’s pointless. You need them to be led by communist parties.
Whoever you're mobilizing when the time comes, if you didn't do any organizing first you're not building a movement you're just walking around with people who already agree with you
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louder, for the people in the back
ive heard too many horror stories from orgs
the only org I've heard good things about is the DSA and they have their issues too...
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Lmao.
The international chapter/IC seems cool with their foreign policy statements though
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That’s just human interaction. I’ve heard horror stories about local musicians. That doesn’t mean I’m never attending a concert again. Organizing people is sometimes like herding cats, but it’s also sometimes like feeling empowered and at home for the first time in your life. It’s worth incorporating your own experience into whatever critiques you have
I considered this, but even a poll this broad still got accused of fedposting. I was hoping to make it general enough that it wouldn’t scare people off and bias the results too much