The bizarre thing is that they haven't even said what the goal really is other than 'Fuck Russia'.

It's basically the 'Resist!' Dem meme again, a feeling devoid of substance.

They're not going to let Ukraine into NATO, not going to swoop in and defend them with force. They can't come out and say it's about creating new markets for their newly found LNG or that they're trying to destabilise the region to isolate and hold onto Europe as the world increasing looks East.

So it's just you must suffer so that our enemies also suffer with no real goal or end in sight.

And the only reason those in charge think they can do something so absurd is because they got cozy with the idea of the Forever War during the war on terror and have convinced themselves that a small number of Facebook ads means they've actually been fighting Russia all along.

No wonder the media is begging for blood and World War III as - aside from their ratings and self-important death drive - they're essentially being told to manufacture consent for a war that they're also being told won't happen, for reasons that aren't being shared but with no real alternative narrative in place.

I fucking hate this line.

Just because something is worth fighting for doesn't mean everything is worth fighting for.

• An imperialist alliance like NATO is not worth fighting for.
• Ruling over people who wants their independence is not worth fighting for.
• Discrimination of ethnic minorities is not worth fighting for.
• Nazis are never ever worth fighting for.

But our dear leaders doesn't see it this way. They feel all of these things are worth fighting for, unlike averting climate change or ending poverty.

starving myself in my freezing apartment to own Putin, who is gonna get pushed to the Urals any day now. the only thing I haven't burned to stay warm is my Ukranian flag I bought to show solidarity with my like minded western minded friends in Keeev