• Teekeeus
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    29 days ago

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    • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      Even if you were to do the "there's no difference between good and bad things" talking point seriously, Mandela only conducted sabotage of hard targets. Never actually targeted people. Meanwhile the apartheid government committed a massacre in Sharpville, which was what the acts of sabotage were in response to. Mandela was not involved in the lethal bombings by the MK after Soweto 1976, he was in prison since the early 60s.

      Just basic facts right wingers still get wrong.

      • silent_water [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        yea but even if he had killed people, there would still be a massive difference between the oppressed struggling for justice and the oppressors massacring those with the boot at their throat.

        There were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.

        we should not apologize for the terror.

        • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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          3 years ago

          True of course, but I'm just trying to correct people's views on Mandela. A lot of right wingers incorrectly believe he did bombings that killed civilians, meanwhile he only did sabotage. Mandela himself said that the step forward from that, in some alternative reality where he wasn't arrested and the government didn't give in to their demands, would have most likely been guerrilla warfare, with similar tactics that were used in the Cuban revolution.

          To go back to reality, it's actually quite interesting just how much inspiration Mandela took from Cuba, his 3 hour "I am prepared to die" speech was heavily inspired and influenced by Fidel Castro's "history will absolve me" speech.