There's no difference between the oppressor and oppressed actually
False equivalence? What does that mean
Even if you were to do the "there's no difference between good and bad things" talking point seriously, Mandela only conducted sabotage of hard targets. Never actually targeted people. Meanwhile the apartheid government committed a massacre in Sharpville, which was what the acts of sabotage were in response to. Mandela was not involved in the lethal bombings by the MK after Soweto 1976, he was in prison since the early 60s.
Just basic facts right wingers still get wrong.
yea but even if he had killed people, there would still be a massive difference between the oppressed struggling for justice and the oppressors massacring those with the boot at their throat.
There were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.
we should not apologize for the terror.
True of course, but I'm just trying to correct people's views on Mandela. A lot of right wingers incorrectly believe he did bombings that killed civilians, meanwhile he only did sabotage. Mandela himself said that the step forward from that, in some alternative reality where he wasn't arrested and the government didn't give in to their demands, would have most likely been guerrilla warfare, with similar tactics that were used in the Cuban revolution.
To go back to reality, it's actually quite interesting just how much inspiration Mandela took from Cuba, his 3 hour "I am prepared to die" speech was heavily inspired and influenced by Fidel Castro's "history will absolve me" speech.
Mandela never carried out a single attack targeting people, only sabotage, the attacks that killed people all happened while he was in prison, and no longer in control of the MK and ANC. Even the apartheid government could only charge him with sabotage and treason. Also the MK was formed in response to the Sharpville massacre
Americans learn basic history challenge: IMPOSSIBLE
What do you mean masturbating to ww2 battles and r/combatfootage isn't learning history
yeah remember when Nelson Mandela livestreamed himself executing a bunch of random civilians and posted a neo-nazi manifesto online afterwards?
i saw nelson mandela personally execute and torture queen elizabeth on stage
As we all know, the best way to deal with criticisms is to accuse your opponents of hypocrisy. For example, it's worked sooo well with Democrats so far.
"Dear Batman, you say you want to deter crime yet you punch me as a way to get me to stop assaulting others. Curious."
- The Joker.
These people are too stupid to hold the mirror up to, they believe their own lies. Their own shrieking of "no U!"
Think of the poor electricity pylons Mandela destroyed!!!11 How could he!?!?!111
Mad at Mandela for violence
Didn't ask don't care plus you're white.
after reading this screenshot i have determined that Mandela simply didn't go far enough
Everytime they do this they're just describing liberalism and fascism.
"Sure, I [redacted] that entire town for no reason except my own pleasure but one of the townspeople whimpered and it almost made me feel a little guilty about indulging in my own d*generacy! TWO WRONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT! NOW I AM THE GOOD GUY AND TOTALLY THE REAL VICTIM HERE!"
Bruh moment. Are humans really just too stupid to understand the concept of punishing a criminal? there are bad guys and good guys. Good guys should do bad guy stuff to bad guys and bad guys cannot complain because they did bad guy stuff first. Superman was totally in the right to [redacted] the Joker.
How much more do I have to dumb it down?
Yarvin
That's a planet from Ratchet and Clank. Get the fuck out of here.