I don't even support a 100% gun ban or anything, I just think this behavior is tasteless asf.
Edit: Get mad and tone police me all you want gunbros, I stand by this.
I don't even support a 100% gun ban or anything, I just think this behavior is tasteless asf.
Edit: Get mad and tone police me all you want gunbros, I stand by this.
Marx's point about arming the workers doesn't apply in an AES state, where presumably the military is the workers. But in a non-AES state, where the military is there to defend the bourgeoisie, the situation is different.
And the plan is to go to war against the US military using legally obtained weapons? That's some incredible strategy right there. What revolution ever had legally obtained firearms as the crux of their fight? I'm pretty sure most revolutionaries obtained guns and more without asking the state if it's legal.
If armed leftists ever pose a threat to the US government, gun control will immediately come into play and chuds will cheer along as it keeps the "commies away from guns". See what happened to the Black Panthers, they got Reagan of all people to pass gun control. No one is overthrowing the state with legally obtained weapons, the state is not going to sell you the tools to dismantle it.
Pointing out that gun control has historically been used as a weapon against the left while advocating for gun control is a confusing tactic.
I think we both agree that there's way the fuck too many guns in this broken country? That's an idea that I can get behind; but if the fascists won't give theirs up willingly, neither will I.
I mean that's the crux of the problem, it's basically like MAD but on a much smaller scale. Obviously you don't want to give up your guns, because that puts you at a disadvantage to the fash.
The obvious solution is for the left to seize state power and confiscate the chuds guns, but that seems so far away to most.
Well, yeah, :fash-bash: and--wait, do we really not have a :guillotine:--are the solution to just about every problem this country has.
It's :gui: or :gui-better: or :gui-trans:
:fash-bash::left-unity-2::gui-better:
Oh, fuck me for typing too much.
Thanks, comrade!
:rosa-salute:
It's more about protecting ourselves when the fash get even more riled up.
I mean in the last two mass shootings people have shot at the gunmen, but they were wearing body armour so they just continued...
Honestly if some fash comes at you in their terminator body armour suit, there's not much you can do, try shoot them in the crotch, or the "Mozambique method" (double tap centre mass + headshot) I guess? Honestly the force difference between some fash with a long gun and body armour vs even someone carrying a pistol for self defence is huge.
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Yeah, I agree on all points. What is your practical plan to confront that? Do you believe that directly confronting in isn't possible? If the latter is the case how exactly would you ever be able to stop it politically?
I'm a non American that doesn't have a gun, but the same way as with any violent situation I guess. Run away, then hide, then only fight if I have no other choice. Avoid confrontation as far as possible.
Honestly if some fash gets the drop on you, there's really not much you can do, that's life, it can be really, really, really shit at times.
Stopping it politically requires using state power to re educate Nazi incels and reintegrate them into society, along with removing all their political power, the American state is unwilling to that at the moment.
You could start with the most basic stuff like criminalising hate speech, but we all know that Amerikkka would fuck that up and only target "anti white" racists or whatever the fuck.
I am American, and I am one who knows the history of "my" country, the blood upon which it was founded , and upon which it has sustained itself.
What I know is that while you may well be right that a country that does not have the same degree of an armed populace would not be witness to anywhere near the reactionary violence we see in the United States, you would only ever possibly be able to enforce that state of affairs by overcoming the force that they already & have always had possession of.
What is going on today is not new for America; we are simply returning to our own normal. And we as leftists in America need to be prepared for that.
Edit: Wrote this before your edit.
You can buy an NFA destructive device if you have money and can pass the background check. Maybe not against a terminator suit, but a grenade will fuck up somebody in a plate carrier and a rampage shooter was going to kill those bystanders anyway.
Having to pay a $200 tax stamp to legally craft a Molotov cocktail is upsetting
yeah :deeper-sadness:
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Good technique, good drill, SUPER FUCKING RACIST origin.
Well for me the plan is to not get hate crimed to death, since I'm very visibly queer and GNC in a rural area that skews reactionary and religious and all of those people are armed to the teeth
remember there's no such legal thing as a warning shot, if you gotta shoot you gotta shoot to kill
So you want to ban guns, while assuming that the people who want guns will be able to obtain them illegally anyway. Do you think that banning guns will effectively deter mass shootings, or is it a strictly aesthetic position?
No it's because I'm not American and think the rate of gun ownership in America is unsustainable for anything resembling a stable society long term.
120 guns per 100 people in the USA. How is that supposed to work on any level. It just cannot. And despite all the guns, no revolution. It's almost as if gun ownership in the US is intended to maintain the status quo.
Gun ownership is a form of virtue signaling here. The chuds have been doing it for ages, and after Trump became president the resistance libs started doing it too. It's a completely ridiculous status quo that only exists because it enriches Smith & Wesson, i agree.
I just think as the US further enters the cool zone ™, the massive amount of guns everywhere is going to lead to unimaginable amounts of violence. Look at the gun involved homicide rate in very unequal and unstable global south countries. Now imagine how bad that would be with the US amount of guns? Once material conditions start going, it doesn't look great.
thanks, you've just convinced me to buy another gun
i think rampage shooters acquire their weapons under a variety of circumstances and the preventive effects of any policy would be contingent on the details of that policy and how the weapons were obtained.
this kid bought his guns, shittenhouse did a straw purchase: age-restricting the purchase of firearms would do something but not everything.
Well, most revolutions haven't occured in a capitalist system with a wildly overgrown military industrial complex. While the quote may be inaccurately attributed, the idea that capitalists will sell us the rope we use to hang them is sound.
If anything resembling a revolution happens in the former US, it won't be because of a military triumph over the police or military or w/e. It'll be because they get spread too thin to react to all the different uprisings happening.
Like as much as people glorify the violent side of revolution, a lot of revolution is just going into buildings and farms and stuff and taking them over because the same thing is happening all over the state at all hours of the day and hey, they can't stop everyone.
It does make me wonder what a socialist group could take over in the US though, now that we're completely privatized and de-industrialized. There's not a lot of factories left. Banks? Post offices? Amazon fulfillment centers?