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    • happybadger [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I'm not stopping you. Please by all means be your own doctor or better yet reinvent the field they've spent a decade studying. That institution probably just arbitrarily exists and everyone in it is probably just some schmuck.

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Do you understand that the way Doctor's treat pain is based on politics and vibes rather than patient outcomes? They spent decades handing out pain pills like candy because they were bribed by pharma companies, not because of science or really any justifiable reason.

        • happybadger [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          What I'm saying is that we learned from that. It illustrates my point which is why it's my point. Recall how Oxycontin was originally marketed by the pharmaceutical company. As non-addictive. It was a magic pill that could cure pain without consequence. The patient's needs were fully met and they left happy. There's plenty of corruption with the marketing like kickbacks and sponsored events, but at the time pain management could transcend the word management and become an actual solution to pain. Pain mind you is your body screaming that you probably won't naturally survive what's happening to you, and it's only fixing that thing which makes pain go away.

          We learned from opioids that they don't make pain go away, they only mask your perception of it. There are massive consequences to even prescribed versions like Oxycontin that go well beyond the individual patient with their individual goals. Using a pharmaceutical crutch meant discouraging things which might help restore the injury site or compensate for it, but slowly and with mild pain. There are health impacts beyond addiction and you not experiencing them doesn't mean the next person won't as well. If we open the faucet and then cut it back, they turn to street alternatives because a wholly different element of the healthcare system fails them.

          So patient outcomes. I like that shit too. What's the actual outcome of prescribing those narcotic painkillers? Does it fix the pain, heal the injury or cure the illness, or restore function in some meaningful way? Those are all patient outcomes that any person in medicine seeks unless you're a full conspiracy uncle. It will dull or completely mask the pain sure, but it will do less for the injury than other classes of drugs while potentially aggravating what the pain is warning you away from using. That will mean the pain is still there when you use your full agency to choose to quit the painkiller. It has a role to play certainly. In plenty of contexts and patients. Where it's contraindicated though, patient outcomes are what develop those contraindications. If someone is turned away from those medications, there's reasoning behind that decision beyond that patient's immediate goal to stop hurting. That pain isn't a meaningless switch that can be turned off and on without consequence. Trying to do so demonstrably has consequences that are worse.

          • D3FNC [any]
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            3 years ago

            props to you for attempting to help people understand, happybadger. You're a better man than I

        • happybadger [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          What the fuck does that even mean? What's wrong with you and why is it my problem?

            • happybadger [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              The only thing I've deciphered from it is that you're very sure that you're correct about whatever position you hold. If you think you're more correct than medicine, replace medicine. Surely someone with as much brain mileage as you can decide better. Go do it.