From this dumpster fire of a thread https://www.reddit.com/r/economy/comments/vbcmxu/karl_marx_was_right_workers_are_systematically
First comment already talking about some magical 'hybrid' of capitalism and socialism. Brother in christ, social democracy with private property is still capitalism ye dingus. Fuck I'm so tired of all these asshats having absolutely no understanding of what they're talking about yet somehow delude themselves inton thinking they have some kind of deep understanding of socialism. Deep enough that they think they don't have to read any of the literature that has been written on the subject for 150+ years
who needs nuance and understanding when you can pretend to be wise and call everyone wrong without justifying your reasoning
Imagine taking South Park and making it your whole ass personality.
Huh, they're trying to find some "third position" that proposes elements of capitalism and socialism while being neither? I wonder what that's called.
they have some kind of deep understanding of socialism
they don’t have to read any of the literature that has been written on the subject for 150+ years
economics is basically just a modern Gnostic mystic cult
Aw shoot! I got fascism-apologia in my wholesome anti-communism again! Why does this keep happening?
Or Chile or Saudi Arabia or South Korea or Brazil or Columbia or...
Authoritarianism is when Leftism. Genocide is when Stalin's Big Spoon.
Imagine if a woman spoke this way but about men. There would be so much pissing and farding and shidding from anti-feminists
fascism was better for people
"we're all just humans, at the end of the day haha, no need for such divisive rhetoric about class war" :epstein:
The Jakarta Method cemented in my mind that Communists vs Nazis is the ultimate expression of the class war. While the Nazis fight as foot soldiers for the rich, the Communists fight for each other. And that's fucking beautiful.
Also. the USA is evil.
True, but we'll be here all day if I've gotta list everyone that fights as foot soldiers for the rich, comrade.
liberals debate, shitpost, updoot and vote for the rich, but i'd say they leave the whole death squad business to the nazis whenever possible.
Been meaning to start that book, have a copy waiting at home. Just want to be in the right frame of mind.
It's a rough read, but definitely a necessity. If you've been paying attention, all the stuff that's been driving you crazy in politics, you'll see rooted in the stories it tells.
Breaking: Stupid forum full of stupid people has bad take
Btw, Peron was a OG SocDem (moderate wing of fascism) and only comrades can criticize his fascist ass on my watch
Given the number of Jacobin articles on the front page, I doubt you have to imagine that hard.
Also, Chile still suffers from the austerity torture imposed by Pinoshits, the only people who have it good there are those who've helped norteamericanos plunder their homeland. Similar things can be said for Spain, which always was one of the least developed countries in western Europe.
US American Libertarians have this weird obsession with Chile. They think it's some ultimate proof that capitalism works and is better than socialism. I had an economics professor who brought up Chile in the first 10 minutes of the first class of his introductory macroeconomics course and wouldn't shut the fuck up about it for the next four years.
I think that's part of the reason I find myself really interested in Chile and love learning more about it from my Chilean comrades here. Because it's like, I was taught that Chile was capitalism's Greatest Champion. The acme of capitalism's success. So to learn that (and this is an oversimplification) Pinochet simply juiced GDP by allowing foreign investors to plunder the country, which got Chilean at the top rich but brought misery to the working class, was part of what really rid me of the last capitalist brainworms I had.
Any good books or essays on Chile's economy You could recommend?
Also, Chile still suffers from the austerity torture imposed by Pinoshits
No no you see, when capitalism kills people through privatization and austerity, that's just The Way Things Are, and anyway it was probably their fault for being stupid and lazy
the right-wing coups of 1989 were an unmitigated disaster for the world
Any time I see a poster named "Mysterious-Ad987389743" or "Complacent-Ad-p03843098" or "TotallyNotARandomlyGeneratedCIAUsername0u8304830982" I just immediately downvote and discard
And yet they always wind up at the top of the comments. I know people are stupid, but they can't be this fucking stupid. Just blatant astroturfing at this point, not even trying to hide it
