• Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          The only valid criticism in this article is that the government arrested Marxists for criticizing the labor conditions in China

          Marxists arresting other Marxists over tiny doctrinal issues is like the most Marxist thing ever.

        • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          I think that the silver lining of this is that they actually think people listen to Marxist academics. I think they are abit over zealous in that regard but the fact that they think people listen to them means that they hold some level of political power, however ephemeral. It means that it must be taken seriously.

    • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      as somebody who's studied polisci, i can safely say that this is 100% projection.

      ofc, it's not entirely the same. for example, learning about master bullshitters like Hobbes and Rousseau has absolutely zero real world applications outside of producing puffy verbal diarrhea that's aligned with the ruling ideology and actively keeps people from understanding anything (social contract my ass, i never agreed to these ToS you fuckheads!), whereas reading Lenin or Mao actually gives you a basic understanding of realpolitik and the conditions that dominate everybody's day-to-day life.

    • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      Poli-Sci majors are some of the most indoctrinated people I've met. They're the types who spent years of their lives studying politics only to say that "socialism is when the government does things."

    • blairbnb [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      based if true, nooooooo please don't make all the population marxists and thereby giving them the tools to understand and improve their lives!!

    • MerryChristmas [any]
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      2 years ago

      Holy shit Xi is going to do all of those things in the US? Talk about based. Glad he is tackling the world's most unequal societies, but I hope China ultimately receives some benefit from his generous actions.

  • mazdak
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    1 year ago

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    • KurtVonnegut [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      From the Xi Jinping wikipedia page:

      From 1998 to 2002, Xi studied Marxist theory and ideological education in Tsinghua University, graduating with a doctorate in law and ideology in 2002.

      Imagine your president having a fucking PhD in Marxist ideology. Imagine your president simply being smart. Imagine your president giving a fuck about improving the material conditions of the his country's people...

    • MerryChristmas [any]
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      2 years ago

      The final exam is starting a student union and overthrowing the faculty. You get extra credit for bringing in your landlord's death certificate.

  • CTHlurker [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I did not expect them to angle this piece like they did. If I wanted to slander China and worked for FT, i'd make the argument that this degree is an outlier when it comes to the market, since the people who get political education in China are mostly the ones who are already set up for a good political job / have the connections required to be in political office. For the record I don't actually think this is true, but surely you can twist this headline / article significantly better than what FT is doing here. It's not like FT is one of those places that shies away from making shit up about China, so why not at least make it plausible? Also the random quote in the middle about the degree being branwashing is :chefs-kiss:

    All in all I give this a 3/10. Put more effort into your propaganda you freaks.

    • Teekeeus [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      "Marxism" anything will scare their target audience, merely dropping the m-word is enough effort

      • CTHlurker [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        I 100% agree with your statement there, but I still feel slightly annoyed that the propaganda isn't better. At the very least they should be attempting to dismiss it, because otherwise it doesn't function as propaganda. But I have a suspicion that they don't want their readers to get too many ideas, since a good portion of their readers probably have business interests in China and would like to see that they remain there.

        • Teekeeus [comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          "Anticommunist propaganda was better in the old days. All this new fangled content just doesn't cut it." :grillman:

          • CTHlurker [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            I mean, I do get kind of annoyed that anticommunist propaganda isn't better, because im already paying for it. This is one of the ways that my surplus value is used, and its fucking pathetic.

            • MerryChristmas [any]
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              2 years ago

              Yeah I work in marketing and I am so, so sorry. I just wanted to make things look pretty with Photoshop when I took the job.

              • CTHlurker [he/him]
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                2 years ago

                Marketing isn't any more or less evil than anything I've done. I've just taken a new job at an insurance company and I'm pretty sure everyone above my immediate manager is a litteral vampire. Might honestly try bringing holy water to my next "employee engagement meeting" or whatever they call it, the one where you discuss whether you should get a raise or not.

  • happybadger [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Leningrad University used to offer a PhD in Marxism-Leninism. I'd abandon my degree track in half a heartbeat if I could get the theory equivalent of fentanyl.

  • AOCapitulator [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    I'd love to take a look at the curriculum, anyone know if that would be possible?

    • summerbl1nd [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      The graduate entrance exams are more like History of Chinese Marxism/History of the CPC. Lots of dates and memorizing of what happened at which conference and where, etc

      They used to go over the basics of LTV and stuff like overproduction in high school but idk if they do that anymore

    • mrbigcheese [he/him]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      some lectures from a Chinese Marxist university program:

      https://m.youtube.com/channel/UC01LJMShkDkYpkX_liAy8Tw

      • yellowparenti5 [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        neat
        american media: da see see pee lies about ______ so their people dont revolt!!1
        marxist professor: china is lacking in many ways
        https://youtu.be/VainzFGFnLA

        • Mardoniush [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          The CPC is really dunking on itself in that statement. Like imagine a western government going openly "All our officials are corrupt, our rural areas are in severe crisis, Our economy has several pathologies that need urgent reform, and half our party members are in it for the grift rather than to build our political program. Here's what we're gonna do about it."