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  • Aquilae [he/him, they/them]
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    6 months ago

    That's not very materialist. If people were like this no AES states would currently exist, and those marginalized peoples would live far worse lives. Cuba would not be so socially progressive right now, and Palestinians would not be able to fight against the genocide.

    Unfortunate truth is that economically unstable countries are socially conservative, and improving that will require working with and organizing those socially conservative masses.

    • Ivysaur@lemmygrad.ml
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      6 months ago

      My response to this is always: please do it, then, because none of them will ever listen to me, the subject of their ire. I cannot be expected to be my own liberator and a patient, knowing teacher to my oppressors at the same time. Allies in advantageous positions need to leverage their afforded social power- their privilege- to do this work, and in my experience, they do not. But a lot of them sure do sound exactly like this.

    • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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      6 months ago

      This is the truth for Central America and our left-wing. We have better understandings of revolution and more effective actions than the American left but we’re also behind on some social issues.

      This also goes for poor parts of the US. Go to the ghettos or the rural boonies and in both places people aren’t exactly going to be woke. It’s an unfortunate byproduct of poverty.

      If you’re especially sensitive then organizing might not be for you because the masses can be brutal when they’re still at the learning stage.