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Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

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Resources For Understanding The War Beyond The Bulletins


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map, who is an independent youtuber with a mostly neutral viewpoint.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have good analysis (though also a couple bad takes here and there)

Understanding War and the Saker: neo-conservative sources but their reporting of the war (so far) seems to line up with reality better than most liberal sources.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict and, unlike most western analysts, has some degree of understanding on how war works. He is a reactionary, however.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent journalist reporting in the Ukrainian warzones.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ Gleb Bazov, banned from Twitter, referenced pretty heavily in what remains of pro-Russian Twitter.

https://t.me/asbmil ~ ASB Military News, banned from Twitter.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday Patrick Lancaster - crowd-funded U.S journalist, mostly pro-Russian, works on the ground near warzones to report news and talk to locals.

https://t.me/riafan_everywhere ~ Think it's a government news org or Federal News Agency? Russian language.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ Front news coverage. Russian langauge.

https://t.me/rybar ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

With the entire western media sphere being overwhelming pro-Ukraine already, you shouldn't really need more, but:

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Last week's discussion post.


  • ClathrateG [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    NATOids rn trying to thread the needle of justifying independence for Kosovo but not Donbass

  • SoyViking [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    People on Telegram are seething with rage what China didn't take the Yankee bait and start a hot war between nuclear powers. Do these people just want to die in nuclear hellfire?

    China will respond to this and China will work to dismantle US imperial power but they are going to be smart about it instead of acting out in rash emotional attacks that could easily lead to a world war.

  • Harajukum [any]
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    2 years ago

    i don't think china's gonna nuke us but it would be pretty funny if they did :big-cool:

    • FirstToServe [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      They shouldn't threaten to nuke us unless they go through with it. Nuclear brinkmanship is about trust.

    • comi [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I don’t think they’ll do anything tbh, it’s just dumb idea in general

        • comi [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          The problem is naval assault is incredibly costly and just straight bombing (allegedly your own) country over visit from some old lady seems very questionable. Economic shenanigans seems saner, or some very asymmetric answer in style of turkey/cuba crisis.

          As I’ve said, china obvious interest is to cultivate peaceful relationship with neighbors, which full military invasion won’t help one bit, in places like vietnam especially

          • thirstywizard [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            Seconding this, economic sanctions or something on the US would be way more painful and cost-effective vs military response. Pretty bad plan to go to war with the country that makes your ammunition and so many other things.

            • 20000bannedposters [love/loves]
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              2 years ago

              The American ruling class doesn't care about it's population. So sanctions aren't going to deter it.

              I forget where i read it but some Chinese think tank type people where making this argument. That the only thing the usa ruling elite understands is violence.

              • thirstywizard [he/him]
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                2 years ago

                Yes, the elite only understand violence, but you can absolutely get there through economics. Economic driven violence you could call it, its a more scenic route but not really that scenic.

                Sure, sanctions and such won't affect them immediately much neither afaik. Like bond dumping or chip shipment seizure or what have you, big bourgeois still laughs and gets their plunder/treats/whatever, profits off it too. Long term it will though, and you can't be ignorant and free of your material reality forever, like the giant chocolate bunny in the pot of boiling milk, fatter you are the more insulated from your environment, but you are not immortal, eventually you will melt. Economy gets bad enough the ruling elite won't be insulated, and as brainwashed as Americans are they do still feel things like thirst hunger and such and while they will attack each other first eventually they will turn on the bourgeois.

                Aside from economic violence regular type wars are lost and won on logistics alone, we've seen how fragile supply chains in the US are. As a spoiler some of those supply chains do hinder military ones as well.

                Everything minus military for the US is fair or shit tier (ex infrastructure, health of populace, economy, and so on), all they have going for them is military/military manufacturing and deal chains and the time to use that is super short, like maybe 5-10yrs tops before they're no longer the global hegemony. Can't fight a war on bad thoughts alone, or make money on war like they used to, US as hypnotized by its own propaganda knows this and is pushing world wide to get as many fires started to use its advantages while it has them in place, won't have them for much longer. Just has to push the target country to the limit to get the military conflicts started since that's playing to the very last card in its deck. These are the lashings out of a faltering warbeast.

          • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]
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            2 years ago

            Vietnam gives a shit about China invading Taiwan but gives no shit about the increasing US military presence in the South China Sea?

            • anoncpc [comrade/them]
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              2 years ago

              Longer history with China, but they playing both side, just like other ASEAN country. Indonesia also buy US equipment if I recalled, but most Asean are neutral and not going take side

            • comi [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              Vietnam likes usa :shrug-outta-hecks:

              • anoncpc [comrade/them]
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                2 years ago

                Only the Gusano, the CPV playing both side, remembered they reject Harris

            • Mardoniush [she/her]
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              2 years ago

              They do, but they want to keep both sides guessing. Titoist thought but with less IMF loans.

          • JamesGoblin [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            I also don't see how exactly China - in spite of being fully right and resloute and yadda - could formulate their military response; In various Chinese media I see nothing specific, just general threats. But Nancy likely won't visit anyway.

            • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]
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              2 years ago

              They likely didn't go to the same military school as the Ukrainian army, you don't just announce offensives weeks in advance you know.

              Xilensky: "We are putting together a 1 million Chinese army and we will take Taiwan sometime in the next month! Yeah you go hide in fear you little peon haha!".

              • JamesGoblin [he/him]
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                2 years ago

                Haha of course, but China is a big country with many voices; they also have independent analysts and political spectrum [I'd say much bigger than USA] yet I haven't seen specific, convincing suggestion.

            • yellowparenti5 [none/use name]
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              2 years ago

              China isn't fully right at all. Explain how the Qing dynasty controlling (small) parts of Taiwan for periods of time, which other countries have as well, means that the CPC should own Taiwan? The KMT is trash leftover from the war in China, how do they represent Taiwan when they only make up 1/5th of the population of Taiwan INCLUDING their descendants and are referred to as foreigners (外省人) in Taiwan?

              • SoyViking [he/him]
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                2 years ago

                Everyone already agrees that Taiwan is Chinese. The conflict is about who the the legitimate government of China is, the PRC or the US puppet regime in Taiwan.

              • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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                2 years ago

                The Qing dynasty controlled the entire island. They literally had to since the last remnants of the Ming dynasty was holed up in Taiwan. The only reason Taiwan is such a question mark and not just another Chinese island like Hainan is due to Japanese imperialism.

                And waishengren doesn't mean "foreigner." It means "person outside of this province" to contrast that with benshengren which means "person of this province." The actual word that means foreigner is "waiguoren." And yes, the fact that waishengren are called waishengren and not waiguoren (although hardcore separatists are trying their best to popularize that term in mainstream Taiwanese society) is already a tacit admittance that Taiwan is just another Chinese province (省), not a country (國).

                And this isn't even getting into the Taiwanese aborigines, the original indigenous peoples of Taiwan, who by and large vote KMT.

              • Fartster [comrade/them]
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                2 years ago

                For someone with that username you really don't seem to understand the US empire imperialism MO.

              • geikei [none/use name]
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                2 years ago

                There is no future where Taiwan becomes a sovereign country . Any unilateral break from the status quo by the US is a step closer to Taiwan becoming a giant Okinawa base for the us military and a full on American protectorat miles off Chinas shore and that's the prime reality China understandably has to avoid . And that's beyond Taiwan existence only being able to happen and be safeguarded by foreign colonialism and intervention. It's existence to this dayis a secessionist, balkanizing by product only of Western imperialism and nothing else

              • JamesGoblin [he/him]
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                2 years ago

                Simply, it's either that or the USA fascist regime - with further expansion and escalations all over the region; and you know what it means.

        • anoncpc [comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          Nah, they not going to shoot down the plane. Probably escort her? The US trying to goad China into a war because this is now or never for them, when China take the semiconductor market and developing 6th gen jets, it’s over for the US.

          • Commiejones [comrade/them, he/him]
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            2 years ago

            I'm hoping they let her land and then a flash mob of P.R.C. loyalists kidnap her and take her to the main land before anyone knows what happened.

        • Mardoniush [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          I foresee some military drills and Chinese Ships doing a bit of running the straits but nothing more than Cold War-style trolling.

    • SoyViking [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Ending organised human civilization in a nuclear holocaust as a bit is NOT okay.

  • VILenin [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Hexbear yesterday: lol China isn't gonna do shit except maybe flank her plane.

    Today: what the fuck why haven't they killed Pelosi yet? WW3 now

  • W_Hexa_W
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    1 year ago

    deleted by creator

    • A_Serbian_Milf [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Improved productive development and the associated increase in standards of living should eventually result in their more reactionary social policies withering away as well.

      That’s what libs never understand when they attack their enemies as bigoted barbarians in order to justify their imperialist wars against them - the way to get them to progress is to allow and foster the improvement of their economies, education and conditions, and to allow them to do it on their own organically

      Sanctions and other economic attacks designed to destroy nations results in increases in reactionary thought, but the libs who claim to want progress keep passing the sanctions while knowing this

        • A_Serbian_Milf [they/them]
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          2 years ago

          I agree, and the extent that they are progressive is due to their ability to withstand US vassalization and develop internally.

          Further US sanctions or a US invasion would devastate the region and bring out the more reactionary demons to the fore, yet the Liberals will still claim they are sanctioning Iran to promote human rights

          My point is that the radlibs who pearlclutch over the bigotry or homophobia of US enemies are either useful idiots of reaction-spreading imperialists, or malevolent liars and crypto-reactionaries themselves using whatever convenient argument for demonizing their next feast.

          Same goes for Russia. Any radlib who thinks a western color revolution in Russia would be a win for social progress is completely delusional. It would be a Navalny or Zelenskyy puppet using Nazi forces to suppress the old powers. It would be another Maidan, and the reaction would only increase

      • Mardoniush [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        What particularly shits me is that This is what Liberal theory tells them to do! and they can't, because they don't actually read or believe in it!

        • A_Serbian_Milf [they/them]
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          2 years ago

          They have idealist brain worms. Bad beliefs are because of bad people and bad society. They have to be punished and incentivized and controlled until they have the correct beliefs and are good people.

          They don’t really understand how ideas emerge from material conditions. They only pretend to gesture at that in sociology, which is basically diet Marx.

  • VILenin [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    :fedposting: Please stop victim blaming Taiwan. :fedposting::fedposting::fedposting::

  • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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    2 years ago

    For days most people were like "there is 0% percent chance China shoots her plane down or pulls some Top Gun shit to scare her" but then just three measly hours after she lands, mofos like "why thy dOn't shOot her dOwn, wOw chIna rEal paper tiger enErgy"

    Bunch of impatient hedgehogs here, dam let the Chinese take off their jacket first lol

  • CliffordBigRedDog [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/wftk6x/ukraine_military_endangering_civilians_by/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

    Ukraine: military endangering civilians by locating forces in residential areas - new research

    Watch redditors accuse amnesty International of being russian bots lol

    Dae wholesome ukrainian military would never use civilians as shields :rage-cry:

  • amyra [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    rockets are being fired at Israel, eternal glory to the Palestinian resistance

  • plov_mix [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Apparently the NYT has an article about "the deep-set fears Xi Jinping has in his party losing control in China," per the Guardian's summary. Excerpt below

    Over informal, private meals with American leaders, China’s Xi Jinping let his guard down a little. It was a decade ago, relations were less strained, and Mr. Xi, still cementing his power, hinted he worried about the Chinese Communist Party’s grip.

    Speaking privately with President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden, Mr. Xi suggested that China was a target of “color revolutions,” a phrase the party adopted from Russia for popular unrest in the name of democracy and blamed on the West. The recent “Arab Spring” uprisings across the Middle East had reinforced his concerns that China was vulnerable to public anger over corruption and inequality, both of which the country had in abundance.

    “Xi couldn’t have been more forthright that China is beset by malevolent forces and internally prey to centrifugal forces,” said Daniel R. Russel, a former senior American diplomat who accompanied Mr. Biden to China in 2011.

    “He would talk all the time about color revolutions. That’s clearly a sort of front-of-mind issue for him,” said Ryan Hass, the National Security Council director for China when Mr. Xi later visited the White House.

    Such fears have come to define the era of Mr. Xi. Over the past decade, he has pursued an all-encompassing drive to expand the very meaning of “national security” in China, bolstering the party’s control on all fronts against any perceived threats abroad that could pounce on weakness at home.

    He has strengthened, centralized and emboldened an already pervasive security apparatus, turning it into a hulking fortress that protects him and positions him as the most powerful leader since Mao Zedong and Deng Xiaoping. Mr. Xi has built what he calls a “comprehensive” system designed for a world he sees as determined to thwart China — politically, economically, socially, militarily and technologically.

    It's funny how the westoid libs writing this must be like "lol xi so paranoid pooh bear scared." BUT IT'S FUCKING AMAZING TO HAVE SOMEONE THIS CLEAR-MINDED ABOUT THE POLITICAL RISKS OF MARKET AND LIBERAL REFORMS.

    :xi-clap:

  • plov_mix [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Global Times Chinese version on sanctions on Pelosi — doesn't seem to be only a gesture.

    众所周知,被称为“国会山富婆”的佩洛西,其家族经营着庞大的商业版图。佩洛西涉嫌利用职务之便为其家族提供商业利益早就广受诟病。中方的制裁势必将对其形成精准打击。此前有香港媒体调查发现,佩洛西丈夫和儿子靠基金投资中国内地、香港及亚洲多区资产,疯狂捞取油水,其丈夫创立的铭基环球投资(香港)旗下的“亚洲股息基金”有一半为中国企业。而该基金的直接经营者是曾向民主党捐款数百万美元的金主。以后不仅这些生意铁定是做不成了,民主党的政治捐款来源也可能受到波及。以后佩洛西家族的“旋转门”转到任何与中国元素相连接的地方都会卡住,“被夹得肉疼”的感觉将是真切而持久的。

    As is own to all, Pelosi, "Our Rich Lady of Capitol Hill," has a family that manages a giant commercial empire. She has long been suspected and broadly criticized for cashing in on her political office for the private gains of her family, and to this China's sanctions will certainly launch a precision strike. A while ago, presses in Hong Kong have discovered that her husband and son have invested in numerous assets in mainland China, Hong Kong, and other parts of Asia through equity funds and have manically made fortunes from them. The Matthews Global Investors (Hong Kong) Ltd her husband established has a "Asia Equity Dividend Fund" where half of the invested firms are Chinese. And the manager of this fund is a donor who has invested millions of dollars to the Democratic Party. From this point on, these ventures will certainly be impossible — and furthermore, even sources of political donations to the Democratic Party may be affected. In the future, all "revolving doors" of the Pelosi family will be stuck whenever it turns to anywhere connected with any Chinese elements. The pain of "getting squeezed by a closing door" will be real and will be lasting.

    That metaphor in the end.

  • JamesGoblin [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Hey I hope the update lands before Pelosi's plane, we might be busy later :countdown: :nuke: :posadist-nuke:

    • Praksis [any]
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      2 years ago

      I hope the aliens notice us and liberate us from ourselves, clearly we can't handle this earth and need benevolent commie aliens o7

    • GnastyGnuts [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I hope I get to see footage of her getting owned before I die, maybe read some angry libshit comments and laugh a little as I go.