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It’s funny bc earlier we had the patsoc hiding behind sectarianism to defend their reactionary ideology and you’re using it as an excuse to stop criticism of people with generally chauvinist takes. We are anti-sectarian but we are more broadly pro-aes and the non-ml comrades here generally have been cool and in favor of that as well. Hell we had a Reddit style anarchist here a while back and tons of our own anarchists called them libs for their well, lib views tbh.
We’ve litigated this here before and I don’t think allowing all ideologies for some ideal of non-sectarianism is a good thing when they conflict with more important ideals like solidarity with aes and 3rd world comrades or a belief in revolutionary over reformist politics which we generally have. I wouldn’t want to see the site diluted to welcome twitter/Reddit style socialists and socdems in the name of non-sectarianism. Critiquing why those ideologies have historically and continue this day to fold or capitulate to capital is more important
I literally just want to not see the words ultra or anarkiddy on this website, I don’t expect people to change their views, there are clearly other places for that
Anarkiddie I get but ultras have literally always broadly been critiqued by virtually the whole of the left. It’s basically no different than critique liberals especially when what they’re espousing is state dept serving (indirectly or otherwise) chauvinism.
it is a short hand for being sectarian against maoists mzt hoxhaists and anti revisonists left comma anarchists specifically it is used specifically for those tendencies when people say it,
I mean in some cases maybe, but maoists don’t exactly have the best track record and could probably do with some critiquing.
Mzt is generally pretty popular here so it’s definitely not that
And honestly calling everyone that doesn’t follow a prescribed ultra doctrine “revisionist” (i.e. actually responding to the material conditions which is a fundamental part of Marxism) and yourself anti-revisionist is kinda sectarian in itself lol
I for one have never called anyone here or anyone else not here a revionist or tankie or whatever other dunk/own, or even wanted to, it’s really not that hard
You asked if you could dunk on rad libs when referring to a socialist / communist content creator, he is not an ML who upholds AES so therefore he is radlib, that is your point, and it’s the definition of sectarinaism
I'm not referring to BE. I'm asking you if dunking on radlibs is sectarian. Not if dunking on BE is sectarian. Is dunking on radlibs sectarian? This is a yes or no question and it does not relate to BE, who is being described as an Ultra, which is not a radlib.
you're very funny, actually, you spend half of your posting time in this website ''side-venting'' and shitting about every tendency you don't like by calling them ''sectarian'' or whatever it is this month, posting months-old threads and random comments from an extremely more niche, smaller website and basically implying it as proof that every person belonging to that tendecy ''are the REAL sectarians!''. overall being a smug rose-twitter liberal. I'd say you're the only one being sectarian here.
you are sectarian
this isn't a hard question to answer, and I'm pretty sure asking it isn't sectarian
it is sectarian when you choose a tendency you don’t agree with it label it radlib and say can’t we dunk on them
It’s funny bc earlier we had the patsoc hiding behind sectarianism to defend their reactionary ideology and you’re using it as an excuse to stop criticism of people with generally chauvinist takes. We are anti-sectarian but we are more broadly pro-aes and the non-ml comrades here generally have been cool and in favor of that as well. Hell we had a Reddit style anarchist here a while back and tons of our own anarchists called them libs for their well, lib views tbh.
We’ve litigated this here before and I don’t think allowing all ideologies for some ideal of non-sectarianism is a good thing when they conflict with more important ideals like solidarity with aes and 3rd world comrades or a belief in revolutionary over reformist politics which we generally have. I wouldn’t want to see the site diluted to welcome twitter/Reddit style socialists and socdems in the name of non-sectarianism. Critiquing why those ideologies have historically and continue this day to fold or capitulate to capital is more important
I literally just want to not see the words ultra or anarkiddy on this website, I don’t expect people to change their views, there are clearly other places for that
Anarkiddie I get but ultras have literally always broadly been critiqued by virtually the whole of the left. It’s basically no different than critique liberals especially when what they’re espousing is state dept serving (indirectly or otherwise) chauvinism.
it is a short hand for being sectarian against maoists mzt hoxhaists and anti revisonists left comma anarchists specifically it is used specifically for those tendencies when people say it,
Not at all. The PRC is (or claims to be, since you might contest it) MZT.
I meant mzt as in the ideology in the Cpc you can call traditional marxists as opposed to innovative marxism or XJP thought
I mean in some cases maybe, but maoists don’t exactly have the best track record and could probably do with some critiquing.
Mzt is generally pretty popular here so it’s definitely not that
And honestly calling everyone that doesn’t follow a prescribed ultra doctrine “revisionist” (i.e. actually responding to the material conditions which is a fundamental part of Marxism) and yourself anti-revisionist is kinda sectarian in itself lol
I for one have never called anyone here or anyone else not here a revionist or tankie or whatever other dunk/own, or even wanted to, it’s really not that hard
That's not what I asked and you know it, if you truly believe the things you believe answering this question should be dead simple with a yes or no
You asked if you could dunk on rad libs when referring to a socialist / communist content creator, he is not an ML who upholds AES so therefore he is radlib, that is your point, and it’s the definition of sectarinaism
I'm not referring to BE. I'm asking you if dunking on radlibs is sectarian. Not if dunking on BE is sectarian. Is dunking on radlibs sectarian? This is a yes or no question and it does not relate to BE, who is being described as an Ultra, which is not a radlib.
It depends on who the radlib is, if you call other leftists radlibs then it is.
so that's a no, you're not willing to answer a simple, direct question directly. cool stuff, glad to have reddited with you good sir
dunking on radlibs is fine, I would never use the word radlib, but idk what you want
you're very funny, actually, you spend half of your posting time in this website ''side-venting'' and shitting about every tendency you don't like by calling them ''sectarian'' or whatever it is this month, posting months-old threads and random comments from an extremely more niche, smaller website and basically implying it as proof that every person belonging to that tendecy ''are the REAL sectarians!''. overall being a smug rose-twitter liberal. I'd say you're the only one being sectarian here.
in the end all i can say is lmao.
CW hostile, but I don't think I'm sorry for this one, I'm pretty sure this comment was extremely rude
you’re clearly really invested in me, mad or something?
lmao