man I just wanna read/watch isekais because I like seeing our world logic applied to fantasy pottery kingdoms like in Log Horizon when they get rich making hamburgers and buy all the buildings in the town or in Goblin Slayer (not an isekai I know) when he uses a teleportation scroll tied to the ocean to use water pressure to cut an ogre apart I don't want them to be having sex with everything
You won't see anything in anime you aren't looking for. I was a dumb teenager when I watched shield hero and I did not pick up the misogyny at all(I'm smarter now), I was just at a really angry and sad place in my life, and the show really appealed to me because wouldn't it be great if there were people who couldn't fail me and I could have my boss executed? Looking back now I see the problems, but I was there because it was a release for all my anger and there were cool fights and raphtalia was fun sometimes.
it's super horny about the sexual assault. it's very uncomfortable.
and because i'm incapable of not taking any opportunity to shill for utena, you should watch utena if you want an anime that treats sexual violence as bad. it's very good
Utena good no doubt.
I disagree about the rest though. It is like that one french movie. It depicts it more graphically. Definitely more graphically than is actually a good idea. However most anime is gleefully about sexual violence. Even regular anime has women's bodies being routinely violated as a joke you know. I am sure the work didn't handle it well enough, but there is enough there that the show being anti violence is a common read.
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Or more in the way if the other oher parts?
If it is the first part it is haveing a few spaces after the line break.
I dont think I ment to do it intentionally actually. It I guess is like the old bug food formatting glitch
it definitely seems like at least someone on the animation team was trying to titillate. and some of the audience for sure took it that way. idk, i haven't seen the whole show, i just think from the way it was framed it's kind of sus.
if you say the way it's written takes the sexual assault more seriously and is better handled than the isolated clips i've seen, that's fair. i just think that it's part of the problem in at least some ways
There are so only so many animators who you can hire for this kinda project and their primary practice with thise kinda material would be hentai so it makes sense.
No doubt the fumbled the execution but I think it still manages to get the point across. honestly think a lot of the reaction is anime fans being made uncomfortable about situation they would normally watch anime showing positivly and becoming edgelords aboug it. Then regularish internet people seeing them being terrible and decided, correctly, not to investigate further
Even the coments for that reddit post are fairly close to what I said. Some edgelords, some people saying it was simply overdone and made them uncomfortable. I dunno what to tell that one user but scenes of sexual violence should be shocking and make you feel uncomfortable. So I feel like my read is upheld even if the production didn't stick the landing. It is just burned into my brain that an anime came out where violence is treated as bad and everyone's brain has been so cooked by the awful infustry that that no one cared
that's what i'm saying. it doesn't matter how well it was written, the anime is still clearly part of the broader problem of the anime community being horny for sexual assault. you might be totally right about how well written and sympathetic the rest of the show is towards rape victims, but i'll never know, and neither will plenty of other people who the show filtered out by having a sexy rape scene right off the bat.
and so with most of the audience who sees rape being depicted as hot as a bad thing gone, most of the audience is made up of shithead perverts, which means it doesn't matter how good the writing is. the show might be saying rape is bad, but it doesn't want to alienate the large audience of shitheads in the anime community. and you need to pick one or the other, you can't have both. it just doesn't work like that
No. It is weird though. Cause regular anime is horny about sexual violence. Look at it's contemporary SAO. Goblin slayer only portrays it is as bad and uncomfortable. To the extent that there are multiple story arcs about dealing with ptsd and society ignoring victims because it is uncomfortable. I dunno what the breakdown is but when you look at the discourse for the show there is a sizeable group of people that read it as I did. So I don't think I am just idiosyncratic in my read of it.
That doesn't feel right to me. In an industry like anime where you have have clear and obvious scences portrayed as positive I think is not that. I just looked up a hentai site and if the postings can be taken as a valid measure of community feelings people are genrally not into it. Where you can find hentai with the same themes just one click over. Lots of it. If you want I can make a graph. I would say it is better than game of of thrones of which it is mostly contemporary. And way better than the rest of the anime which it is contemporary to. This is by anime standards a strong subversion off the tropes involved. And I am fully lib brained about it. It cooks my noodle that this is the only anime to show sexual violence as anyway bad and people complain about it the most.
This is why Ascendance of a Bookworm is the best Isekai. Just a nerdy crafts girl becoming rich by introducing innovations like shampoo, paper, and pizza.
it's still got its weird moments with this pseudo romantic infatuation with Lutz when she's literally like 20+ in a little girl's body but it's much less bad than like any other anime so yeah
it's trying to have a child character that's an adult but also a cute romance and it doesn't work, but it doesn't strike me as being meant to be sexy or anything which so many other examples clearly are.
I've found you're better off reading serials on like RoyalRoad if you're looking to scratch that 'isekai economics world-building' itch lol. Wandering Inn being probably the most famous non-Royal Road serial in that vein.
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man I just wanna read/watch isekais because I like seeing our world logic applied to fantasy pottery kingdoms like in Log Horizon when they get rich making hamburgers and buy all the buildings in the town or in Goblin Slayer (not an isekai I know) when he uses a teleportation scroll tied to the ocean to use water pressure to cut an ogre apart I don't want them to be having sex with everything
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I ignore all the problematic parts of it I just want to see him make air-fuel bombs with flour god damn it
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You won't see anything in anime you aren't looking for. I was a dumb teenager when I watched shield hero and I did not pick up the misogyny at all(I'm smarter now), I was just at a really angry and sad place in my life, and the show really appealed to me because wouldn't it be great if there were people who couldn't fail me and I could have my boss executed? Looking back now I see the problems, but I was there because it was a release for all my anger and there were cool fights and raphtalia was fun sometimes.
What? I always though Goblin Slayer was good for being the only anime to portray sexual violence as bad. Did I get proven wrong by history?
it's super horny about the sexual assault. it's very uncomfortable.
and because i'm incapable of not taking any opportunity to shill for utena, you should watch utena if you want an anime that treats sexual violence as bad. it's very good
Utena good no doubt.
I disagree about the rest though. It is like that one french movie. It depicts it more graphically. Definitely more graphically than is actually a good idea. However most anime is gleefully about sexual violence. Even regular anime has women's bodies being routinely violated as a joke you know. I am sure the work didn't handle it well enough, but there is enough there that the show being anti violence is a common read.
i just noticed, how did you format your post like that?
Like This?
Or more in the way if the other oher parts?
If it is the first part it is haveing a few spaces after the line break.
I dont think I ment to do it intentionally actually. It I guess is like the old bug food formatting glitch
hmmmm.
does this do it?
guess not
this maybe?
nope
oh well. thanks
oh, hey. thanks!
it definitely seems like at least someone on the animation team was trying to titillate. and some of the audience for sure took it that way. idk, i haven't seen the whole show, i just think from the way it was framed it's kind of sus.
if you say the way it's written takes the sexual assault more seriously and is better handled than the isolated clips i've seen, that's fair. i just think that it's part of the problem in at least some ways
There are so only so many animators who you can hire for this kinda project and their primary practice with thise kinda material would be hentai so it makes sense.
No doubt the fumbled the execution but I think it still manages to get the point across. honestly think a lot of the reaction is anime fans being made uncomfortable about situation they would normally watch anime showing positivly and becoming edgelords aboug it. Then regularish internet people seeing them being terrible and decided, correctly, not to investigate further
Even the coments for that reddit post are fairly close to what I said. Some edgelords, some people saying it was simply overdone and made them uncomfortable. I dunno what to tell that one user but scenes of sexual violence should be shocking and make you feel uncomfortable. So I feel like my read is upheld even if the production didn't stick the landing. It is just burned into my brain that an anime came out where violence is treated as bad and everyone's brain has been so cooked by the awful infustry that that no one cared
that's what i'm saying. it doesn't matter how well it was written, the anime is still clearly part of the broader problem of the anime community being horny for sexual assault. you might be totally right about how well written and sympathetic the rest of the show is towards rape victims, but i'll never know, and neither will plenty of other people who the show filtered out by having a sexy rape scene right off the bat.
and so with most of the audience who sees rape being depicted as hot as a bad thing gone, most of the audience is made up of shithead perverts, which means it doesn't matter how good the writing is. the show might be saying rape is bad, but it doesn't want to alienate the large audience of shitheads in the anime community. and you need to pick one or the other, you can't have both. it just doesn't work like that
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No. It is weird though. Cause regular anime is horny about sexual violence. Look at it's contemporary SAO. Goblin slayer only portrays it is as bad and uncomfortable. To the extent that there are multiple story arcs about dealing with ptsd and society ignoring victims because it is uncomfortable. I dunno what the breakdown is but when you look at the discourse for the show there is a sizeable group of people that read it as I did. So I don't think I am just idiosyncratic in my read of it.
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That doesn't feel right to me. In an industry like anime where you have have clear and obvious scences portrayed as positive I think is not that. I just looked up a hentai site and if the postings can be taken as a valid measure of community feelings people are genrally not into it. Where you can find hentai with the same themes just one click over. Lots of it. If you want I can make a graph. I would say it is better than game of of thrones of which it is mostly contemporary. And way better than the rest of the anime which it is contemporary to. This is by anime standards a strong subversion off the tropes involved. And I am fully lib brained about it. It cooks my noodle that this is the only anime to show sexual violence as anyway bad and people complain about it the most.
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This is why Ascendance of a Bookworm is the best Isekai. Just a nerdy crafts girl becoming rich by introducing innovations like shampoo, paper, and pizza.
it's still got its weird moments with this pseudo romantic infatuation with Lutz when she's literally like 20+ in a little girl's body but it's much less bad than like any other anime so yeah
isn't it implied she's kind of mentally fused with her child body, so she isn't fully an adult? still weird, but i thought that was the explanation
Like, kinda, but I wouldn't see that excuse flying with a male protagonist in terms of analyzing the pedo qualities of another show
it's trying to have a child character that's an adult but also a cute romance and it doesn't work, but it doesn't strike me as being meant to be sexy or anything which so many other examples clearly are.
does that make sense?
It's not as bad as other things definitely, you have to think about it more than this other problematic content to really be like "this is a problem"
it's a problem, but i think if it wasn't for this broader trend it could exist without us noticing or caring
I've found you're better off reading serials on like RoyalRoad if you're looking to scratch that 'isekai economics world-building' itch lol. Wandering Inn being probably the most famous non-Royal Road serial in that vein.