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  • Awoo [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    Realised that shooting protesters results in getting shot back at and now they're too scared to do anything. The sudden realisation that they aren't willing to die for their ideology is setting in and they can see nobody around them wants to die either, demoralisation kicking in overtime as a result.

    Contrary to fears, the shootings lowered the morale of the right. They're all online larp and no offline commitment. It's been an entertainment game to them up til now, and they're realising that it's not fun anymore.

    • FUCKTHEPAINTUP [any]
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      4 years ago

      yeah, we have breathing room right now to continue to distribute weapons and pull comrades into autonomous orgs and hold the self-defence line

      chuds obviously figured out that our threats were credible tonight and cowered, or the feds / pigs tipped them off for no-go

      Proudboys splitting off early is either evidence of absolute cowardice or “infiltration”, so I’m expecting to see a lot of infighting as this whole stupid “meme fascism alliance” collapses into millions of ruined lives and reputations destroyed as people realize that starting a fascist coup over repeated exposure to frog memes was in fact a bad idea

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        Lmfao this comment is perfect and too accurate.

        I've been saying for a while now that the quantity of actual murder-you-fascists is absolutely TINY. People on the left have been conflating the state, the libs, the fascists, and the online meme crowd all as one giant blob. The situation is more nuanced. The libs aren't going to turn into fascists they like to live. The meme fascists aren't going to turn into shooters. The state is just totally predictable cop stuff so we can handle that. The REAL fascists are tiny in number. Even the militias don't ACTUALLY want a fight.

        People don't want to die.

        They have learned that the left is actually still willing to show up even after getting shot at and that the left will respond with killing of its own. It's not a game and the commitment to the two ideologies is vastly different, the left out there are committed, the right out there are not. They haven't built any infrastructure. They're too decentralised. They've built anarcho-fascism and it simply does not work. Only the centralised, organised, multi year construction of fascist movements with youth training programs and a steady escalation work. This shit does not.

        What's even better about this is that they're SO committed to their anarcho-fascism through their libertarian bullshit beliefs that they've harmed their ability to build mass centralised organisations because they've ingrained individualism and personal rights so hard into their movement. It's hilarious. They SHOULD be depressed because they've fucked up.

        The only thing that concerns me is that there's a real potential for them to pivot into a religious cult instead via the Q shit. That has to be the primary target of struggle now, the libertarian fascism is dead in the water but they can probably build what they have into a zealous cult movement instead.

        • MiraculousMM [he/him, any]M
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          4 years ago

          Hard agree, and the cult prediction in particular is spot-on. The proto-fash contingent is extremely ideologically united and will blindly accept the the "sermons" of anyone who exudes sufficient confidence and authority while also telling their audience exactly what they want to hear. It's a perfect storm for forming a cult-like movement, especially because their base is already far more susceptible to it.

          • Awoo [she/her]
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            4 years ago

            Gotta nip that shit in the bud. Find the potential cult leaders and put a hard stop to them early by dismantling anything attractive about them. The only reason Q has worked so far is because there's literally no actual human being to dismantle, the audience imagines whoever they want Q to be.