I don't think I've seen anyone here apologizing for Biden. The most you'll see is "Biden sucks, but I'm half-heartedly considering voting for him even though he's doing his best to convince me not to."
It's exactly this and some people are way too caught up in the online argument drama. Pick a fucking way to vote or don't already and stop incessantly having the same boring argument over and over.
Everyone on my basketball team sucks, but I still have to pick five starters. Am I "apologizing" for the five starters even though I openly say they suck too?
You cannot do this at the ballot box. You just cannot. You continue to live here and materially benefit from being within the imperial core, so no, you're absolved of nothing.
If the path of reasoning you've followed has left you with no choice but to cling to an admitted delusion, maybe it's time to reexamine the reasoning that you followed.
My comparatively weak standard that I developed before even Bernie had entered the race was that if whoever the DNC ends up nominating can do better in polling than Clinton in Texas, I'd try to push them over the line with my vote.
The Dems have met that standard so far but between their diet GOP convention, the Neal/Morse shenanigans, Pelosi's Kennedy endorsement, and the Biden camp saying "oh we were just trying to placate 'Warren people,'" goddamn they are determined to give me reasons to disregard it and throw my vote to the Greens or something.
I don't think I've seen anyone here apologizing for Biden. The most you'll see is "Biden sucks, but I'm half-heartedly considering voting for him even though he's doing his best to convince me not to."
It's exactly this and some people are way too caught up in the online argument drama. Pick a fucking way to vote or don't already and stop incessantly having the same boring argument over and over.
People are really hoping that they can effect something but won't at least at the presidential level.
That's still apologizing for him. It's admitting he is somehow the better option or "harm reduction". He isn't.
Everyone on my basketball team sucks, but I still have to pick five starters. Am I "apologizing" for the five starters even though I openly say they suck too?
Just don't fuckin' play.
The game is going to happen whatever you do. "Don't play" just lets someone else decide.
cool and then its not your fault when they lose
And what's more important than being free from blame?
idk chief I dont see any distinction between trump and biden that holds any substance so i'd rather be guilt free
esp since biden is prolly going to start a couple wars
Good luck, you're American, you're as guilty as the rest of us and how you mark a ballot in November ain't gonna change that.
okay then i guess i can just not vote since im already guilty
I am voting 3rd party to count our numbers. Lenin talked about it somewhere and it seems pretty rational to me. I suggest you do the same.
Yeah sure just stop treating this like it's some act of personal absolution.
when theres no distinction between the two candidates you may as well personally absolve yourself
You cannot do this at the ballot box. You just cannot. You continue to live here and materially benefit from being within the imperial core, so no, you're absolved of nothing.
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And there it is.
This is utter nonsense, you cannot undo the past. Those Iraqis are still dead, for example.
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If the path of reasoning you've followed has left you with no choice but to cling to an admitted delusion, maybe it's time to reexamine the reasoning that you followed.
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That's fair. I certainly don't blame anyone for not wanting to support the diet GOP.
I've got strong feelings both ways and no good way to untangle them. But I live in Texas so it really doesn't matter.
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My comparatively weak standard that I developed before even Bernie had entered the race was that if whoever the DNC ends up nominating can do better in polling than Clinton in Texas, I'd try to push them over the line with my vote.
The Dems have met that standard so far but between their diet GOP convention, the Neal/Morse shenanigans, Pelosi's Kennedy endorsement, and the Biden camp saying "oh we were just trying to placate 'Warren people,'" goddamn they are determined to give me reasons to disregard it and throw my vote to the Greens or something.
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lol I'm not going to tear my hair out writing a perfect analogy for someone who doesn't know what "apologize" means