the biggest barrier to desktop linux adoption is difficulty of learning a new, slightly janky user environment. the second biggest barrier is the way Linux People are
Most won't, but I hope that Linux Mint, Kubuntu and the like getting easier to use and more widespread (and global communism instated) means more ppl do in the future.
I don't care that you like it and post about it I care that they're chauvinist. Why do all the posts need to be about calling people who don't use Linux idiots? Like a lot of people just use their computers to write emails and use a word processor, the idea that you want to constantly bay about how they're morons for not learning a bunch of completely unnecessary and complicated procedures just kind of sucks honestly
I dont use linux but i get the idea that if more people used linux there would be more incentive to nake it user frendly and those complicated procedures would dbecome les so. i like the preaching because i hate my os and want to change to linux but like you am afraid of said procedures.
I know you are back peddling in later comments that you misunderstood the posters here but Linux fanboys overall tend to be very pushy seeking nothing less then the global liberation of all computers with "Libre" software.
It's a huge waste of time. If you want privacy then don't do anything electronically. Don't carry a phone with you. It's not like eight billion people with their own devices running "Libre" software will ever happen in a world where we are trying to contain climate/ecological collapse.
It's not scare quotes. More away to get across my exasperation with people losing their shit when somebody casually uses "open source".
Your only privacy from ad companies is in the small enclaves of repos and a dwindling file sharing culture. Anything of significance requires an account on facebook or being willing to run zoom. Hexbear and image boards don't count.
You can say that about alot of online services that are alot easier to find and use even if there is risk. This site is fine as some sort of introduction for the terminally online like myself but beyond that I and others here need to pull ourselves together and work where it matters - revolutionary parties, trade union, housing unions, mutual aid societies and pressure groups.
I used to love this open source libre software but it's not what threatens surveillance capitalism. Lawsuits, regulations and ultimately nationalization will.
Nah, most people don't care about what OS they're using to have their feathers ruffled by a silly meme and are better served with a tablet OS like iOS anyways.
The meme is targeting Windows fanboys (ie g!mers) and their dumbass rationalizations over why Windows is totally not as complicated to use as Linux. When you're fiddling around with regedit to get your Skyrim with 30+ mods to run or running a bunch of batch files to debloat Windows, you really lost all right to say Linux is so complicated relative to Windows. I'm sorry, the shit Windows users have to go through to uninstall ads is infinitely more complicated than "that doesn't exist in Linux" lol
If Windows users really cared that much about having an OS that's neither janky nor overly complicated, they would just drop Windows and use a Mac. And don't mistaken this for me being an "OS chauvinist" as there's actually a deep rabbit hole in the world of hidden macOS settings that offers a greater degree of control and customization than what most people think a macOS is capable of. I honestly think OOTB macOS is more customizable than OOTB Windows although I have to play around with it some more. Slap on Homebrew to get a package manager going and your macOS is already beginning to resemble Linux. Just setting up a functional Hackintosh is an impressive feat in its own right, a far cry from babies who don't know what adblock is.
The real OS chauvinist has always being the Windows fanboys. They snobbishly look down on Mac users as babies who suck at computers, never mind that macOS is a POSIX with a higher learning ceiling than Windows, but when it comes to Linux users, suddenly it's "wah, Linux is too hard, wah, you have to always use the terminal." Extremely convenient how non-Windows users are either babies who suck at computers or neckbeards who are out of touch with average users, totally not a form of OS chauvinism in its own right.
And this OS chauvinism is almost completely driven by g!mers. How do I know this? What's the number one argument against Linux? It can't run Microsoft Office, it can't run Photoshop, and so forth. But Windows doesn't have a monopoly on Microsoft Office or Photoshop since Mac versions exist for them as well, and from the Mac users I know, they prefer the Mac version over the Windows version. Sure, it's an argument to not use Linux, but the framing of the argument is actually "here's why you should use Windows instead of Linux," which is a silly argument with Mac versions of those programs. The only reason to use Windows instead of Linux or macOS is purely videogames, which means the loudest Windows shills are of course going to be g!mers.
And as a final note, Linux users by and large do not give a shit about Mac users and are fairly chill with them. Because at the end of the day, macOS is just proprietary BSD. It comes with bash and most commands that work in Linux works in macOS as well. In general, "if it works in Linux, it would work in macOS" is true more times than not from my experience even if the actual steps are slightly different. Spotlight is absolutely magnificent, better than every single Linux equivalent (although KDE's search comes close) and certainly better than Windows' garbage search.
tl;dr: "The revolution will not be secured until g!mers have been thoroughly liquidated as a reactionary class." - Mao Zedong
The people who think Linux is complicated don't care about why windows sucks
They should give Linux a shot first
the biggest barrier to desktop linux adoption is difficulty of learning a new, slightly janky user environment. the second biggest barrier is the way Linux People are
I would say the biggest barrier is actually getting a live USB set up so you can use it in the first place. "Boot order? BIOS?"
99% of computer users have never installed an operating system and probably don't even understand that it's something one can do.
Most won't, but I hope that Linux Mint, Kubuntu and the like getting easier to use and more widespread (and global communism instated) means more ppl do in the future.
Like a lot of people's lives don't revolve around their computers honestly the Linux chauvinism on the front page every day is getting tedious.
We get it. You love your operating system or whatever. Can you find something else to post about?
I don't know why you're surprised that we stan the less-capitalist OS on the anti-capitalist forum.
In other words :bugs-no:
I don't care that you like it and post about it I care that they're chauvinist. Why do all the posts need to be about calling people who don't use Linux idiots? Like a lot of people just use their computers to write emails and use a word processor, the idea that you want to constantly bay about how they're morons for not learning a bunch of completely unnecessary and complicated procedures just kind of sucks honestly
I dont use linux but i get the idea that if more people used linux there would be more incentive to nake it user frendly and those complicated procedures would dbecome les so. i like the preaching because i hate my os and want to change to linux but like you am afraid of said procedures.
What complicated and unnecessary procedures are you having to perform on linux to check your email or use a word processor?
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Yeah, I'm not doing any of that.
Apologies comrade, I thought it was a rhetorical question
My guy just scroll past the thread if you don't like it
I know you are back peddling in later comments that you misunderstood the posters here but Linux fanboys overall tend to be very pushy seeking nothing less then the global liberation of all computers with "Libre" software.
It's a huge waste of time. If you want privacy then don't do anything electronically. Don't carry a phone with you. It's not like eight billion people with their own devices running "Libre" software will ever happen in a world where we are trying to contain climate/ecological collapse.
Why the scare quotes on libre? Is knowing what your device is doing and having control over that not desirable?
But like why though? Is wanting privacy from ad companies bourgeois?
It's not scare quotes. More away to get across my exasperation with people losing their shit when somebody casually uses "open source".
Your only privacy from ad companies is in the small enclaves of repos and a dwindling file sharing culture. Anything of significance requires an account on facebook or being willing to run zoom. Hexbear and image boards don't count.
I agree wholeheartedly, and I want to cling onto that until it's taken from me entirely. Why do those things not count?
It's just entertainment.
To a gay kid in a homophobic state it might be your support network.
You can say that about alot of online services that are alot easier to find and use even if there is risk. This site is fine as some sort of introduction for the terminally online like myself but beyond that I and others here need to pull ourselves together and work where it matters - revolutionary parties, trade union, housing unions, mutual aid societies and pressure groups.
I used to love this open source libre software but it's not what threatens surveillance capitalism. Lawsuits, regulations and ultimately nationalization will.
Nah, most people don't care about what OS they're using to have their feathers ruffled by a silly meme and are better served with a tablet OS like iOS anyways.
The meme is targeting Windows fanboys (ie g!mers) and their dumbass rationalizations over why Windows is totally not as complicated to use as Linux. When you're fiddling around with regedit to get your Skyrim with 30+ mods to run or running a bunch of batch files to debloat Windows, you really lost all right to say Linux is so complicated relative to Windows. I'm sorry, the shit Windows users have to go through to uninstall ads is infinitely more complicated than "that doesn't exist in Linux" lol
If Windows users really cared that much about having an OS that's neither janky nor overly complicated, they would just drop Windows and use a Mac. And don't mistaken this for me being an "OS chauvinist" as there's actually a deep rabbit hole in the world of hidden macOS settings that offers a greater degree of control and customization than what most people think a macOS is capable of. I honestly think OOTB macOS is more customizable than OOTB Windows although I have to play around with it some more. Slap on Homebrew to get a package manager going and your macOS is already beginning to resemble Linux. Just setting up a functional Hackintosh is an impressive feat in its own right, a far cry from babies who don't know what adblock is.
The real OS chauvinist has always being the Windows fanboys. They snobbishly look down on Mac users as babies who suck at computers, never mind that macOS is a POSIX with a higher learning ceiling than Windows, but when it comes to Linux users, suddenly it's "wah, Linux is too hard, wah, you have to always use the terminal." Extremely convenient how non-Windows users are either babies who suck at computers or neckbeards who are out of touch with average users, totally not a form of OS chauvinism in its own right.
And this OS chauvinism is almost completely driven by g!mers. How do I know this? What's the number one argument against Linux? It can't run Microsoft Office, it can't run Photoshop, and so forth. But Windows doesn't have a monopoly on Microsoft Office or Photoshop since Mac versions exist for them as well, and from the Mac users I know, they prefer the Mac version over the Windows version. Sure, it's an argument to not use Linux, but the framing of the argument is actually "here's why you should use Windows instead of Linux," which is a silly argument with Mac versions of those programs. The only reason to use Windows instead of Linux or macOS is purely videogames, which means the loudest Windows shills are of course going to be g!mers.
And as a final note, Linux users by and large do not give a shit about Mac users and are fairly chill with them. Because at the end of the day, macOS is just proprietary BSD. It comes with bash and most commands that work in Linux works in macOS as well. In general, "if it works in Linux, it would work in macOS" is true more times than not from my experience even if the actual steps are slightly different. Spotlight is absolutely magnificent, better than every single Linux equivalent (although KDE's search comes close) and certainly better than Windows' garbage search.
tl;dr: "The revolution will not be secured until g!mers have been thoroughly liquidated as a reactionary class." - Mao Zedong
Like veganism! :vegan-tofu:
Unironically yes
Who was being ironic. :vegan-liberation: