The scales we're working with aren't that tight. Trump is actively deregulating industry and destroying the EPA, opening up protected lands for oil extraction, etc.
Joe Biden will at least not deregulate the regulations Obama put in place, obviously. And committing trillions to climate action is seriously a lot, even if it's less than Bernie and still not 'enough'.
Guessing a number for the difference in policy between the two over the next four years (and likely more than four, for either of them) is nonsense because neither of us have real numbers there, but the difference is not total collapse of 4 years sooner.
Even a 10 year gap or a 20 year gap for technology to develop and those developing nations to prepare saves billions of people. So yes, it does matter, despite the true doomerism of the situation as a whole we're talking the scale of billions of human lives and suffering.
Venezuela would be a better example of the real benefits of the Trump admin's inefficacy. Literally just sent like ten dudes in a boat and got immediately arrested.
The scales we're working with aren't that tight. Trump is actively deregulating industry and destroying the EPA, opening up protected lands for oil extraction, etc.
Joe Biden will at least not deregulate the regulations Obama put in place, obviously. And committing trillions to climate action is seriously a lot, even if it's less than Bernie and still not 'enough'.
Guessing a number for the difference in policy between the two over the next four years (and likely more than four, for either of them) is nonsense because neither of us have real numbers there, but the difference is not total collapse of 4 years sooner.
Even a 10 year gap or a 20 year gap for technology to develop and those developing nations to prepare saves billions of people. So yes, it does matter, despite the true doomerism of the situation as a whole we're talking the scale of billions of human lives and suffering.
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I don't think that opportunity offsets the acceleration of climate death.
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What about successful coups like we saw in Bolivia?
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I'm not saying anything about Evo; just highlighting Bolivia as a counterpoint to the "Trump is too incompetent to do imperialism" argument.
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Venezuela would be a better example of the real benefits of the Trump admin's inefficacy. Literally just sent like ten dudes in a boat and got immediately arrested.
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Child brain argument.
Literally standing here arguing that hurting the environment more is the same as trying to save the environment.
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