What can we do to change this? I don't think chapo.chat will ever be huge, but it would be nice for it to be consistently active.

  • FUCKTHEPAINTUP [any]
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    4 years ago

    Okay, fair point, but what if you can completely validate what they’ve done or thought in the past with therapeutic and relativistic psychoanalysis, provide systemic explanations for faults, re-education, pharmacology, changes in material conditions, new social media environments... yes, real effort. Always struggle. Ideas can change quickly.

    • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      You can absolutely persuade people -- it just takes time, though, and effort. And throwing them in the deep end (e.g., "Stalin committed literally zero crimes") is a risky strategy at best, and a losing one for most people in most environments.

      • FUCKTHEPAINTUP [any]
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        4 years ago

        I absolutely agree.

        My favourite part of The Tempest is when the dark sorcerer Prospero drowns all of his magic books.

        That’s why we say we treat Stalin and Lenin and Mao fairly. They were all complete fucking assholes. Stalin a lot, Mao probably less so, Lenin barely at all - truly the Gonzalo archetype.