• emizeko [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    a couple great quotes from Deng Xiaoping to explain:

    Capitalism is a bane compared with socialism. Capitalism is a boon compared with medievalism, small production, and the evils of bureaucracy which spring from the dispersal of the small producers. Inasmuch as we are as yet unable to pass directly from small production to socialism, some capitalism is inevitable as the elemental product of small production and exchange; so that we must utilise capitalism (particularly by directing it into the channels of state capitalism) as the intermediary link between small production and socialism, as a means, a path, and a method of increasing the productive forces.

    [...]

    Get down to business, all of you! You will have capitalists beside you, including foreign capitalists, concessionaires and leaseholders. They will squeeze profits out of you amounting to hundreds per cent; they will enrich themselves, operating alongside of you. Let them. Meanwhile you will learn from them the business of running the economy, and only when you do that will you be able to build up a communist republic. Since we must necessarily learn quickly, any slackness in this respect is a serious crime. And we must undergo this training, this severe, stern and sometimes even cruel training, because we have no other way out.

    Oh wait, those are quotes from Lenin, not Deng! 😂 [1][2]

  • AbbysMuscles [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    I remember when I was young, freshly radicalized, and angry. I was especially angry at Deng for "betraying socialism in China". Adulthood is realizing that Deng was right all along

  • RamrodBaguette [comrade/them, he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I'm told by Liberals that China is capitalist so it doesn't count as a socialist success story. But never concretely the reasons for why the West doesn't simply adopt China's economic model. Given how well it's been going for China, you'd think countries that already have le productive forces would try to build on it themselves.

    :thinkin-lenin:

    Maoists at least have principled responses to articulate their dislike of modern China, particularly since we don't know what pre-Deng China would look like today. But we've seen what neoliberal capitalism looks like.

    • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      I guess Western brains just lack the particular frontal folds to make capitalism not suck unlike Chinese brains.

    • im_smoke [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Well, you see, China is going to collapse in -69 days so it would be folly to adopt their economic system.

    • bbnh69420 [she/her, they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Here's Deng himself https://redsails.org/reform-is-the-only-way-for-china/

      An interview https://redsails.org/deng-and-fallaci/

      And another piece on socialist construction https://redsails.org/objective-laws-of-socialist-economic-development/