I watched some of the video because you can't judge a video just by the title. In the video, he says that the Soviet Union was "failed socialism". Then he says that the Soviet Union spread their "failed socialism" to poor countries by offering poor countries resources and training. He says that the only real socialism was Revolutionary Catalonia and Makhnovshchina, and he blames the Soviet Union for destroying these places.
The video seems to be made by an anti-ML anarchist guy. I don't really have any further comments because I don't want to be sectarian or upset anarchists. I will just say that I don't agree with the video.
Just to make sure this is explicitly clear for @TheDiddlyDoo and @ComradeCmdrPiggy—both of whom I assume did not know any better—calling feds a shorthand for "glowing «a slur for a black person goes here»" is hate speech. Please do not do that.
online anarchists are usually young, just getting into radical left politics. They've been fed anti-communists propaganda all their lives, so they still have shitlib brainworms. They think they are against the state, but they are still spewing state department propaganda against countries that US are hostile towards.
Yeah my b :shrug-outta-hecks: I try not to be sectarian and there is a lot of anarchist theory I agree with, but to call Makhnovshchina the only example of socialism is preposterous because they didn't control their own industrial production, survived military conflicts due to the larger engagement of the whites and reds, and were too disorganized on a larger scale to ever stand as a stable state, much less a truly socialist one, in the face of encroaching capitalist powers.
I remember I originally read about it on this site, but I'd need to dig for a source. If I find it I'll update, but as always I could always use more sources because these details tend to get murky
I should also add that as far as I'm aware, Makhno himself was not antisemitic (although the more I read about him, the more my opinion of him sours), but at a peak size of 30,000, Makhnovists were largely unorganized, and some groups committed hate crimes, and Makhno did not do enough to stop such occurences. I have also heard that some of them were infiltrators from other factions, and other murders were committed by said parties.
all anarchists ive met and organized with and marched with and done "stuff" with have been cool and focused on working together to find solutions in the present
Thank u for ur service, you're braver than I am cause I absolutely do judge videos by their title all the time lmao. If it's a rando idk I don't usually waste my time unless it's actually recommended to me by someone I trust has good judgment. Too much crap on YouTube I've regretted even giving 5 minutes to
I watched some of the video because you can't judge a video just by the title. In the video, he says that the Soviet Union was "failed socialism". Then he says that the Soviet Union spread their "failed socialism" to poor countries by offering poor countries resources and training. He says that the only real socialism was Revolutionary Catalonia and Makhnovshchina, and he blames the Soviet Union for destroying these places.
The video seems to be made by an anti-ML anarchist guy. I don't really have any further comments because I don't want to be sectarian or upset anarchists. I will just say that I don't agree with the video.
Weird anarcho-trot idealism soup there, just that this guy hasn't learned the terms "d*generated/deformed worker state" yet.
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its 4channer lingo, comes from schizophrenic programmer Terry Davis of TempleOS fame, who often said things like "CIA <slur>s glow in the dark"
Just to make sure this is explicitly clear for @TheDiddlyDoo and @ComradeCmdrPiggy—both of whom I assume did not know any better—calling feds a shorthand for "glowing «a slur for a black person goes here»" is hate speech. Please do not do that.
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All good, my dude. It's astounding the number of people I've had to tell about it in the last year.
online anarchists are usually young, just getting into radical left politics. They've been fed anti-communists propaganda all their lives, so they still have shitlib brainworms. They think they are against the state, but they are still spewing state department propaganda against countries that US are hostile towards.
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Socialism is when your followers go around the countryside killing ethnic minorities and communists and you never really do anything about it
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Yeah my b :shrug-outta-hecks: I try not to be sectarian and there is a lot of anarchist theory I agree with, but to call Makhnovshchina the only example of socialism is preposterous because they didn't control their own industrial production, survived military conflicts due to the larger engagement of the whites and reds, and were too disorganized on a larger scale to ever stand as a stable state, much less a truly socialist one, in the face of encroaching capitalist powers.
Can I can a Makh-no?
Do you have any sources/further reading on this?
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I remember I originally read about it on this site, but I'd need to dig for a source. If I find it I'll update, but as always I could always use more sources because these details tend to get murky
I should also add that as far as I'm aware, Makhno himself was not antisemitic (although the more I read about him, the more my opinion of him sours), but at a peak size of 30,000, Makhnovists were largely unorganized, and some groups committed hate crimes, and Makhno did not do enough to stop such occurences. I have also heard that some of them were infiltrators from other factions, and other murders were committed by said parties.
Gotta read widely on this one. Liberals, commies, and anarchists all have their fair share of bad takes on Makhno.
This is a decent place to start, but I gotta emphasize, read widely: https://libcom.org/article/russian-anarchists-and-civil-war-paul-avrich
same
all anarchists ive met and organized with and marched with and done "stuff" with have been cool and focused on working together to find solutions in the present
Thank u for ur service, you're braver than I am cause I absolutely do judge videos by their title all the time lmao. If it's a rando idk I don't usually waste my time unless it's actually recommended to me by someone I trust has good judgment. Too much crap on YouTube I've regretted even giving 5 minutes to