dude thinks he's all about "the rules" and being "fair" and shit in his murder games but he clearly stacks the deck way more against some people than others
i.e. amanda just has to kill a guy? um okay, dude's dead
someone else has to DIG A KEY OUT OF THEIR OWN BRAIN THROUGH THEIR EYEBALL?
what the fuck man, what if they fucking TRY to do it but pass out from the sheer fucking agony involved in that?? oh woops yer dead anyway guess you didn't want to live enough :shrug-outta-hecks:
my gf is watching the saw movies and I hate them all
edit: also how the fuck does this dude have all the time and resources to put all this shit together
The punishments he gives these people seem wildly out of proportion to their offense. Like, you have a sort of ennui and aren't really appreciating your life, so here's a fucking bomb in your chest.
you like drugs? well I'm going to kill you with drugs! ! ! !
In Saw 8 he just makes a guy watch Saw 1-7 but on a bunch of ketamine.
When you're running out of ideas and also the budget for the movie is like 30 bucks plus catering from Popeye's
jigsaw is a crypto bro who made it big and spends his free time enacting libertarian fantasies of justice
The first movie has a solid plot and isn't actually all that gory, they progressively get more and more torture-porny. Kinda what happens to all horror franchises unfortunately.
also how the fuck does this dude have all the time and resources to put all this shit together
elaborate torture devices? in THIS economy??
Whatever, Saw II rules. I love how the plot goes from two guys chained up in a basement to a full-on death house with a pit full of used heroin syringes.
a full-on death house with a pit full of used heroin syringes.
i cannot watch this shit
Reeducation camps for people who produce and enjoy this psycho torture porn shit. Lock them away.
It's not particularly realistic though lol
I remember watching the first two in theaters and it felt more like a comedy than a horror film
Yeah like, it's a sus form of entertainment, I wonder if enjoyers of sadistic torture porn get the same thrill out of reading about unit 731 or Joseph Mengele?
Hot take maybe, not trying to offend anyone, I just don't appreciate that people are flocking to theaters to watch gratuitous mutilation and torture/murder porn
Also the Dahmer movie and how people are like lol, whatever, there's always movies coming out like that. Like bitch, you know there's a crowd that loves bad shit happening to gay black kids, and you even admit you know they didn't bother to respect the families when they went about making the movie.
Just feel like I'm in the friggin Twilight Zone over here sometimes
If you read enough horror movie blogs you'll learn that most hard core horror fans are more like literary critics than sadists. They're in it for the artistry and craft that goes in to horror movies. Not only do they know the gore isn't real, they also know how the special effects are created and how the effect is achieved. There are horror movie buffs who can watch a movie and tell you who did the special effects because they can recognize the artist's signature in the gore.
I can't speak to the Dahmer movie because as far as I know movies based on actual crimes aren't that common in horror, but even with the extremely grotesque special effects Saw is still firmly within the tradition of slasher horro movies.
I have not seem the Dahmer movie but I think it's popularity is more similar to the true crime genre since it is about a famous killer. I think true crime ends up being more sus than something like Saw since it leads to people overestimating how much violent crime is actually happening and portraying the killers as geniuses.
Trillbilly Worker's Party already invented Reasonable Saw. It's a good bit. Episode 256 from about 10 minutes in.
Lol...this thread has the same energy of people arguing over Thanos's genocide in the MCU.
Jigsaw is a psychopath and he's the villain. His sick games being inconsistent and unfair is sorta the point.
i don't get why people who like that shit don't just go watch an actual murder if they want to see something awful and gruesome
Why play a shooter instead of just shoot people? Why do anything fictional?!
Because real people getting murdered is horrible, while fictional people can be a story.
It’s why true crime is getting a pushback because it turns real people into fiction.
Like that garbage rule that all Chinese movies must end with the antagonists losing or facing justice or whatever. It all gets really boring really fucking fast. And you know what? I liked the first Saw movie. It was pretty decent. Not great, but it was a neat concept and it really hooked young me.
I'll also say that I was super into body horror before I realized I was trans. The Saw movies, The Thing, Cronenberg, and so on. Torture, mutation, whatever- just really fucked up shit happening to characters' bodies. After I realized I was trans and especially after I started hormones, I lost interest in that kind of thing. Not everyone likes gruesome media because they're morally degraded or something, you moralizing assholes.
Oh I haven't seen much of that kind of thing for years now. Was it any good?
It sort of felt like he was just trying his old tricks again, to be honest, but his old tricks are still pretty effective.
Yeah I’ve been noticing it too and mostly just scroll past, but it’s really getting annoying.
It's funny because I expect the users of this site to be able to relate all the mass shootings and other violence in the US to alienation and capitalism and all that. There are a lot of reasons why violence happens so why act like the gory movies are the things affecting people's behavior
Word. if anything violent media is the culture trying to make the violence and terror in to something they can control and deal with. We watch Michael Meyers chop up teenagers so we can have the catharsis of watching the final girl escape because we have no control or resolution from actual serial killers.
People can tell the difference between fantasy and reality, even with particularly gory horror movies. A lot of die hard horror movie fans, even more than normal people, are in it for their love of the genre. They appreciate the artistry and care that goes in to the special effects and gore, they like the way that the director builds tension and terror, they like how writers and directors find new ways to keep the genre fresh and creative. I'd argue that for most horror movie fans the gore and violence is even less "real" that it is for regular viewers because they know so much about the technical aspects of how it's accomplished. I mean, they also love the thrill of a scary movie, but a lot of them genuinely love the craft.
they like how writers and directors find new ways to keep the genre fresh and creative
i really laughed at this one for some reason. yeah 90% of every genre is derivative garbage, but i think i watched too much horror trash.
Really bad horror movies are a pleasure all their own bc you can heckle all the obvious shortcuts and stereotypes and no one will get mad at you for talking over the movie.
I mean some people do. A cartel chainsaw execution is just a couple clicks away. With that said the "real" stuff obviously hits different and many people (thankfully) wouldnt find that entertaining.
Yeah like wtf I wanna watch hot people scream while covered in red syrup in a scary decorated room not like, an actual person dying
Because nobody actually gets hurt in a dumb gore movie. Weird comment.
I finally watched the movie and the one thing I found most disturbing was how much the main character's nemesis Clare Quilty looked like :brace-watching: and the woman who was with him in the hotel looked like :liz-society:
Genuinely started questioning my sanity and the nature of my reality
I don’t get why people who like that shit don’t just go watch an actual high school if they want to see something awful and gruesome
Jigsaw giving people choices :unity: Capital giving people choices :unity: Christian god giving people choices
I had to ask her to change it while I ate dinner after work, it's just so gross x_x
that's entirely reasonable no dismembered bodies while anyone's eating
yeah we finished watching gambo thrones instead and saw a show dismember itself, it was wild how they are so willing to kill characters that they went and killed the Throne
I havent watched these movies in a while but I do remember jigsaw (or was it one of his acolytes?) killing a bunch of nazi skinheads in very pleasing fashion so that was cool. Im not even a fan of torture porn but as a teenager I watched a lot of worse stuff on the internet out of morbid curiosity. Mind you I stopped consuming that kind of content years ago I just dont get anything from watching gore these days.
