Anyone who recognizes significant problems with capitalism is broadly on the left. That includes many people in both of those groups (however they're defined, which is a whole other conversation).
they view the current capitalism system as “crony capitalism”
That's not criticizing capitalism itself -- that's making the "not real capitalism" argument. What I'm talking about is people who see problems with capitalism even if it's some Platonic ideal of capitalism that works exactly as intended.
capitalism has “gone too far” in allowing the free movements of goods and people
This is a reasonable critique of the definition I supplied, but note that these exact sort of people -- people with reactionary social ideas but who recognize the inherent problems of capitalism -- are talked about all the time as people who could be brought over to the left. This is why Bernie did town halls on Fox, for example.
And if you want to argue that we shouldn't be recruiting from this group (and I would agree it would be a waste of time talking to committed bigots), describe who we should be recruiting from. We can't write off these people and libs if we want to have any hope of getting anything done.
“We” doesn’t include liberals and SocDems. My future does not include liberals or SocDems
Have fun getting gunned down by the police all alone
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Not if the left is too committed to infighting to take power
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Anyone who recognizes significant problems with capitalism is broadly on the left. That includes many people in both of those groups (however they're defined, which is a whole other conversation).
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That's not criticizing capitalism itself -- that's making the "not real capitalism" argument. What I'm talking about is people who see problems with capitalism even if it's some Platonic ideal of capitalism that works exactly as intended.
This is a reasonable critique of the definition I supplied, but note that these exact sort of people -- people with reactionary social ideas but who recognize the inherent problems of capitalism -- are talked about all the time as people who could be brought over to the left. This is why Bernie did town halls on Fox, for example.
And if you want to argue that we shouldn't be recruiting from this group (and I would agree it would be a waste of time talking to committed bigots), describe who we should be recruiting from. We can't write off these people and libs if we want to have any hope of getting anything done.
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Who do you think the cops are?