Why should Qatar be subjected to a level of scrutiny that's never applied to the US ...
Ah yes the communist talking points, everyone is doing / has done many times over human right's abuses so no one should be called out on it, like yes it's hypocritical that the western press / orgs didn't ban US during it's wars on the middle east and for so many other things, but this person claims to be a socialist, and if you're really a socialist you criticize the deaths of the most exploited workers in the world regardless of whether there is hypocrisy associated with, this is ultimately stands against solidarity with hyper exploited workers and instead stands in solidarity with non western states, reframing the issue as not having to do with thousands of migrant deaths, but rather west vs rest (which Qatar only meets certain metrics of being to begin with) and instead stands with the governments and elites of states like Qatar instead of working people.
Infantino makes an important point ...
No he doesn't he doesn't make any points let alone important ones, he uses an RT style socialist aesthetics anti west in substance argument to justify his own and FIFA's taking of Qatari bribes to ignore his and diminish his organizations culpability in the thousands of migrant deaths, you do not have to hand it to far right actors when they throw out an anti west argument bc it suits them even though they do it only from a place of protecting their own money and power linked to anti west interests.
If the world cup was held in the US ...
No the international community would not call it out, but the international community are not socialists and leftists and their hypocrisy does not and should not inform socialist thought, this is the most vulgar argument you can possibly make on informing your own views, the anti communists believe this so the communists should believe the opposite is not something any serious leftist would try to push as a serious line of thought. The rest of it I won't address as it's basically all, but muh hypocrisy !!! hypocrites !!! which is at best lazy and at worst undercuts actual socialist and positions and international working class solidarity.
This isn't a defense of Qatar, this is pointing out that almost no one who pretends to care about the horrifying abuses in Qatar actually gives a shit, or they would apply the same scrutiny to the most horrific society to ever exist, their own.
Here's the thing though, he clearly states in his first sentence that his criticism is directed at liberal imperialism
IMO he's criticizing western hypocrisy and not actually defending Qatar. If you're nonwestern and/or nonwhite you know how infuriating it is when the yakubian libs act all high and mighty and use their "moral high ground" to "justify" their racist condescension and colonial attitudes towards others.
Qatar should be shat on, but western libs have no right. I believe that's the point.
During a reactionary war a revolutionary class cannot but desire the defeat of its government.
This, but for information warfare.
The beer thing is an interesting point and I’m not sure how to react to it.
Alcohol is still allowed in the skyboxes, it's only forbidden for regular attendees.
That's fucked up but I also get the logic of banning alcohol at an event like this, even if it took place in a culture where alcohol use were the norm. Nobody benefits from booze-fueled sports riots.
i think it'd rankle far less if it were a blanket ban rather than yet another instance of "rules for thee"
the weed point is really weird, also because in a lot of europe, on the date of some sporting event, sale of alcohol is banned all around the stadium and sometimes city-wide, this includes bloody britain; so much so because the decision to sell alcohol or not is decided by the city council in some parts and, for example, in the touristy parts of the old city of Cardiff, sale of alcohol is banned after a certain hour, just cause
I think his criticism just directed at the western media and liberal harping on this WC. Just like how they did it with Beijing Olympic. They probably quite and celebrate Olympic in LA and WC 2026
Exactly. Where will be the human rights outrage from the west in 2026? Nowhere, because soaring homelessness and poverty is completely normalized here. And all the ugly aspects of industrial capitalism have been outsourced to the global south, so the US can act all high and mighty on human rights while its transnational corporations can extend its tentacles around the world and plunder the global working class. Out of sight, out of mind!
ITT: Westerners completely missing the point and misconstruing the post as pro-qatar when it's simply calling out western lib hypocrisy
The only thing he actually defended qatar over was the one minor point on alcohol
America and Saudi have murdered like half a million people in Yemen in the last decade. I guess there's maybe a cease fire now. But it's objectively been one of the most horrific things happening in the world for years and years and you know that almost everyone whining about human rights is a dead eyed hypocrite because they never bring it up, and often don't even know it's happening. Like everyone whining about Qatar now generally didn't ever do anything to get the US and Saudi to stop the deliberate, calculated, intentional, planned mass murder of Yemeni civilians. It's all bad faith, it's all insincere, no one in any position of power or with any media reach actually has any human feelings or emotions.
Qatar is subjected to a level of scrutiny that is never applied to the US and other western powers
Good...
So we should scrutinize Qatar less
So close!
I am totally and unequivocally pro-LGBTQIA+ rights
BUT
:stalin-gun-1::stalin-gun-2:
If the world cup was held in the US, would people call for a boycott due to its genocidal wars?
No, i'd just call for
DEATH TO AMERIKKKA :liberty-weeping: :stalin-gun-1::stalin-gun-2:
as usual. Next question please.
oh no they aren't serving beer at the stadium a bunch of slaves died while building.
I thought all the enlightened Westoids already boycotted attending because of human rights issues, so why does it even matter that no beer is being served?
But all Westoids think of themselves as being enlightened, that's part and parcel of being a westoid.
It always reeks of childishness. "But they got to do it, why can't IIII??"
I think there are better occasions to point out the obvious double standard the US has when it compares its own track record of human rights violations against every non-western country than the very moment every gimmick account under the sun is breaking character to point out criticizing Qatar for employing Pakistani slave labor is islamophobic, actually. Even if his intentions are good, like, read the room lol.
If you think the US can host the world cup but Qatar can't, you are a white supremacism, sorry sweaty.
Oh look, it's lots of masking statements instantly covering whatever is after the "but" parts. :liberalism:
