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The explanation I have been given is they were concerned about the impacts on their jobs and therefore voted against solidarity out of narrow self interest, again demonstrating that unions are not necessarily pro-worker in a broad sense or sometimes not even pro-worker for their own members.
AOC is doing what she cherry-picked a small subsection of the rank-and-file to tell her to do!!!
Another dem politician picks the path of least resistance that lets her follow the status quo, news at 11.
Yes she's a lib, I don't care what she campaigned on, Nancy goddamn Pelosi campaigned on universal healthcare for her first election. Might as well be a card carrying Dem the way she bends over backwards for everything they want now.
you don't understand, she's doing what the rank-and-file asked
this is incredibly weird of AOC to mislead people on
only thing i can guess is that their jobs depend on the supply lines. that's about it.
of course not but like most people and groups they are worried about themselves more than others. they get paid to represent grocers/produce and they thought that was the best route.
Not an issue if they're striking in solidarity. If they don't have 14 sick days, now is an excellent time to demand it. If they do... support your bothers.
How is this even worse then I thought. :agony-shivering:
While I can see AOC taking their opinion into account, I doubt that their opinion weighed more heavily on her decision than what Dem leadership wanted. It just so happened that their opinions lined up so that she could use it as an excuse.
She's shown time and again that she'll go to bat for the establishment and this vote was huge for them because averting the strike would possibly avert an economic disaster. It'd be a huge blow to the Democrats chances in 2024 and she once again put the party ahead of workers.
Yup, they're just a shield, not the reason for her decision
no just let someone have a bad take and learn from it, dont be toxic
As far as I can tell they haven't learned anything and never stopped acting trolly.
They've also done this a few times before.
Maybe theyre a fucking idiot hasan-brain and havent done much of the leg work (reading theory) yet
AOC is just a small bean doing what the heckin unions told her to do
Union backstabbing each other. Wow, gonna fuel more right wing talk about union bad, and this event doesn’t help either but feeding it to them
Edit: This is a gut response to the situation, and not the OP. Please forgive any terseness. I love our posters.
I get that we still need to deprogram people away from liberal electoralism, but goddamn is it tiring. The debate shouldn't be about what's in
Trump'sAOC's heart, but whether or not if she and the political project she represents is capable of delivering "good things." Clearly she is not, and that's why she's a bad leader.I would not care if a literal DND lich was in charge if they were going to actually fix shit.
Please forgive me comrade, I tried to throw an edit in to clarify. My response was ill-timed shrapnel that I should have been more careful with. Your question and post are valid and good, and ultimately must be resolved on a mass scale for any forward momentum.
My frustration is due to that reality, and what I see as no forth-coming answer to a loop I've been caught in for decades now. I used to spend hours arguing to liberals that Bernie's civil rights history proved his beautiful leftist purity, and in the end I'm stuck here watching him union bust and getting emails from Joe Biden asking for money.
Bitches lie. Simple as that. AOC prolly isn't even smart enough to recognize what the fuck she is saying. So unless there's evidence and proof she is just talking out her ass.
The democratic establishment whipped her into shape real fast. She had so much energy and hope when she won her seat. Now she might as well be some democratic clone Iike Judy Chu. Fuck off, loser :gulag:
I think she referenced it as an example of who she had worked with before, not saying that they were the ones who directed her to vote a certain way.
Anyway I want reciepts. Who in what union(s) advocated for their own strike power to be taken away?
Is the produce union a business union or a real one?
They're real. I can't find the post, but I'm pretty sure we had one on their strike last January.
That's not what he meant by real. The safe bet's they're a business union.
Ah I see. I wasn't to sure what a business union was, but reading up a bit on it and reading the Local 202 website it would seem that they indeed are.
Those unions jobs rely on the train infrastructure right? I imagine most of them are worried that rail worker strikes will disrupt their own livelihoods.