Almost every one of my negative experiences on this site is because I criticized someone's treat. It's especially remarkable how many times I've been called mentally ill by some treat defender because of that, because leftism is about hating on the mentally ill and using mental illness as a pejorative against treat critics. :so-true:
On the last part, removing downvotes seemed to be an improvement. Removing upvotes might help unless some unintended consequences lead to another 4ch!n where "anon" often meant botting and repetitive reposts where even the attempt to remove that via automated screening systems resulted in the incel hellpit known as /r9k/.
For the moment the mod system seems to be working better than it did before, but I don't know what to credit for that. It does seem to be a bit of a "black box" system now.
By extension, I don't know how, or even if it'd be a good idea, to codify (for lack of a better term) "treat defense" as a punishable offense no matter how petty, toxic, and sometimes feral it can get. I don't have all the answers.
I agree with you, and it is at a deeper level that I rarely touch upon myself.
It can be hard to challenge that complacency, even with the anti-sociality characteristics in mind, because at some level I do understand that people are tired, worn out, demoralized, and just want to work and rest and have entertainment in between (or sometimes during), and that such entertainment may have such a viscerally felt importance that it's seen as a personal offense, or even a threat, when that entertainment is criticized.
You may have right of it that it's the antisociality that could be the fairly punished offense of it. Not "Gambo sucks, so you're banned for being a Gambo fan" but "calling people mentally ill and concern trolling them about their mental health or lack thereof because they criticized Gambo is a punishable offense" may work.
In general if I criticize some treat I do it because I think something in the messaging or the ideological implications is potentially harmful. I rarely criticize the consumers directly first (except :my-hero: cultists, fuck 'em).
I called the British specific version of it a treat, in particular the extraordinary rage from one user because of my tongue in cheek remark that the British plundered the world's local cuisines yet were kind of notorious for their stolen versions of it being bland or covered in beans or something.
If it was another time and a different argument than that, I don't remember. Besides, I don't think treats as a concept are automatically bad anyway, only how they're identified with or how culture interacts around them in hellworld.
that was me yes
and it wasn't extraordinary rage, as i said in that thread, just exasperation at an american doing the one joke, but with extra ignorance
we are pretty famous for having very good Indian food, as you would expect from somewhere with a large Indian population
I honestly see treat defenders and people complaining about how you should "let people have fun" far more in online spaces than irl. Treat defenders and treat defending don't really exist irl, at least in my own personal experience. I've seen far more celeb and sports defending among my coworkers. Let's put it this way: people aren't going to start throwing hands because you said Game of Thrones has gratuitous nudity and violence or the sequels are worse than the prequels. But talk shit about someone's favorite team, especially if they're a serious fan and you're a fan of the rival team? Yeah, you're going to get a very different response than calling their childhood cartoon a glorified toy commercial.
Almost every one of my negative experiences on this site is because I criticized someone's treat. It's especially remarkable how many times I've been called mentally ill by some treat defender because of that, because leftism is about hating on the mentally ill and using mental illness as a pejorative against treat critics. :so-true:
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I think you're on to something there.
On the last part, removing downvotes seemed to be an improvement. Removing upvotes might help unless some unintended consequences lead to another 4ch!n where "anon" often meant botting and repetitive reposts where even the attempt to remove that via automated screening systems resulted in the incel hellpit known as /r9k/.
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For the moment the mod system seems to be working better than it did before, but I don't know what to credit for that. It does seem to be a bit of a "black box" system now.
By extension, I don't know how, or even if it'd be a good idea, to codify (for lack of a better term) "treat defense" as a punishable offense no matter how petty, toxic, and sometimes feral it can get. I don't have all the answers.
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I agree with you, and it is at a deeper level that I rarely touch upon myself.
It can be hard to challenge that complacency, even with the anti-sociality characteristics in mind, because at some level I do understand that people are tired, worn out, demoralized, and just want to work and rest and have entertainment in between (or sometimes during), and that such entertainment may have such a viscerally felt importance that it's seen as a personal offense, or even a threat, when that entertainment is criticized.
You may have right of it that it's the antisociality that could be the fairly punished offense of it. Not "Gambo sucks, so you're banned for being a Gambo fan" but "calling people mentally ill and concern trolling them about their mental health or lack thereof because they criticized Gambo is a punishable offense" may work.
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In general if I criticize some treat I do it because I think something in the messaging or the ideological implications is potentially harmful. I rarely criticize the consumers directly first (except :my-hero: cultists, fuck 'em).
i generally like you, but you once called indian food a "treat" because i pushed back on a take of yours
I called the British specific version of it a treat, in particular the extraordinary rage from one user because of my tongue in cheek remark that the British plundered the world's local cuisines yet were kind of notorious for their stolen versions of it being bland or covered in beans or something.
If it was another time and a different argument than that, I don't remember. Besides, I don't think treats as a concept are automatically bad anyway, only how they're identified with or how culture interacts around them in hellworld.
that was me yes
and it wasn't extraordinary rage, as i said in that thread, just exasperation at an american doing the one joke, but with extra ignorance
we are pretty famous for having very good Indian food, as you would expect from somewhere with a large Indian population
no investigation, no right to speak and all that
and of course you don't respond to this lmao
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the process is to become a mod is pretty easy so anyone who is curious can see inside the blackbox
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That last paragraph is why I always feel like I have one foot out the door.
i got rejected for "not fitting in" lmao
not middle class enough i guess
I honestly see treat defenders and people complaining about how you should "let people have fun" far more in online spaces than irl. Treat defenders and treat defending don't really exist irl, at least in my own personal experience. I've seen far more celeb and sports defending among my coworkers. Let's put it this way: people aren't going to start throwing hands because you said Game of Thrones has gratuitous nudity and violence or the sequels are worse than the prequels. But talk shit about someone's favorite team, especially if they're a serious fan and you're a fan of the rival team? Yeah, you're going to get a very different response than calling their childhood cartoon a glorified toy commercial.