Whenever people are like oh we need to empathize w/ incels, care about their feelings blah blah, I just think about what Lundy Bancroft said about abusers.
They need to learn empathy, and this excessive focus on their feelings is a barrier to them learning empathy.
🐦🔗: https://twitter.com/iHateCogsci/status/1610409758120361984
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But this is step 1 of "offering an alternative": recognizing that it takes different skillsets/social conditions to get them well-adjusted, because for whatever reason they're starting from a different psychological basis.
I agree that to some extent the whole idea of focusing on these guys is counterproductive. But focusing on them is not the same as making sure that our movement is equipped to deal with them effectively, without having to relive this generational moment over and over again.
They feel alienated from society because it feels unlivably complex, and they happen to fit enough heuristics of the power group that they feel entitled to deal with that complexity by violently maximizing their adherence to power.
The right takes advantage of this by a) being in power already, b) being the same kind of people, and c) happy to use these guys to further their own interests. So they offer the easy, accessible, lowest-common-denominator solution of just catering to that entitlement.
Of course "Be a good person" doesn't effectively compete. But that doesn't have to be the only narrative the left offers. We need the next step, a narrative that starts with "Be a good person" and builds it into a competitively epic cognitive reward mechanism.
You might have the cart before the horse. First you have tightly knit communities that value each other as people then they develop political identities that reject atomization and placing thee individual above all else.
The problem is precisely that we don't have those; and also the people thrown off the land, out of their homes in the countryside & into the cities in the late-1700's, and mid-1800's also didn't have them when the first round of industrial revolutions happened. They built social clubs (which would then develop into tight-knit communities) around their identities as, yes aggrieved workers after the fact, and then leveraged that into political goals.
What I'm saying specifically is that I think we should attempt to follow that trajectory.