Im totally on board with calling it creepy if a 48 year old dates a 19 year old. With that said im also of the opinion that it should be legal. If you dont think it should be...you should have a discussion about a higher age of consent than 18 years.
I think consent is more complicated than you are giving credit for. I do not believe that an 18 year old is adult enough to consent to going out with a 50 year old as the reasons why a 50 year old dating a 17 year old is messed up are just as in play here. I do think an 18 year old can consent with a 20 year old
adulthood is not just a state you magically reach once you turn a certain age it is a complex societal idea referring to a persons level of development and it is also not a binary state
It's their business regardless. If you're going to start taking away agency from 18 year olds, then we should shift the voting age higher too because that's too young to make those kinds of decisions.
Adulthood vs. childhood is always going to face a fuzzy boundary and any line is going to be arbitrary for one reason or another. At a certain point, we have to consider people full legal persons with rights and responsibilities, and that includes the right to make mistakes. I think more restrictions and involving criminal systems is more likely to hurt than help. Affect this by way of social stigmatization, not legality.
Then that's a separate issue now isn't it? :gui-better: That's the point of a more equitable world - where people aren't grossly more powerful than others.
Hard disagree. Not about the monkey brain thing, but about legality binding people. So flippant about the policing necessary to enforce this kind of law.
It would be gross to apply that as a hard and fast rule, or to specifically go around chasing people of the lowest acceptable age specifically. But it at least captures the fact that as you get older, the acceptable age gap widens, but within limits.
Im totally on board with calling it creepy if a 48 year old dates a 19 year old. With that said im also of the opinion that it should be legal. If you dont think it should be...you should have a discussion about a higher age of consent than 18 years.
an age of consent that considered age differences wouldn't be the worst idea
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I think consent is more complicated than you are giving credit for. I do not believe that an 18 year old is adult enough to consent to going out with a 50 year old as the reasons why a 50 year old dating a 17 year old is messed up are just as in play here. I do think an 18 year old can consent with a 20 year old
adulthood is not just a state you magically reach once you turn a certain age it is a complex societal idea referring to a persons level of development and it is also not a binary state
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it's difficult because the law is a blunt instrument and this is a nuanced issue.
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that wasn't my thinking. A 30 year old dating a 50 year old I would consider reasonable similarly for an 18 year old dating a 16 year old even.
people do a lot of growing up in their early 20s and I don't think anyone over 24 should be dating people under 20
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It's their business regardless. If you're going to start taking away agency from 18 year olds, then we should shift the voting age higher too because that's too young to make those kinds of decisions.
Adulthood vs. childhood is always going to face a fuzzy boundary and any line is going to be arbitrary for one reason or another. At a certain point, we have to consider people full legal persons with rights and responsibilities, and that includes the right to make mistakes. I think more restrictions and involving criminal systems is more likely to hurt than help. Affect this by way of social stigmatization, not legality.
Yeah it's funny seeing some here getting all "tough on crime" when it comes to this issue
"It's ICKY and it's okay when I don't like it :comfy:" This comm rn.
Ah yes, giving childish responses like this are totally a reflection of how much of a big, smart boy you are.
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A powerful rich man is above any social stigmatization an average person could level. Social stigma can only be used against people in your community
Then that's a separate issue now isn't it? :gui-better: That's the point of a more equitable world - where people aren't grossly more powerful than others.
ok but I was talking about how people should behave in the world we live in now not the world after we achieve socialism.
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Hard disagree. Not about the monkey brain thing, but about legality binding people. So flippant about the policing necessary to enforce this kind of law.
A lot of people (on all issues) think of law and enforcement as different things, when in reality they're inseparable.
I feel like age 18 is still a good voting age
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The ol' half your age plus seven thing strikes again.
It would be gross to apply that as a hard and fast rule, or to specifically go around chasing people of the lowest acceptable age specifically. But it at least captures the fact that as you get older, the acceptable age gap widens, but within limits.