• NephewAlphaBravo [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Cheshire Constabulary Det Ch Supt Mike said "At this time, there is no evidence to suggest that the circumstances surrounding Brianna's death are hate related"

    Nowhere in the article does it say why anyone might suspect that as a possibility :ukkk:

    All the linked articles are the same way

    • cawsby [he/him]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      The local city council, school, and police were already being sued for lack of protection of trans kids from bullying a full two months before this happened.

      • TillieNeuen [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        That is really important context that a responsible journalist would include in the article. "No evidence to suggest," huh?

    • Flyberius [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      Nowhere in the article does it say why anyone might suspect that as a possibility

      Yeah, the BBC are fucking sickening. Absolute scum.

      • NephewAlphaBravo [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        That's all true, it's the fact that these news outlets are uniformly refusing to mention that even before this, she was a victim of transphobic bullying. The "no evidence of a hate crime" just makes that omission stand out even more.

  • kingspooky [he/him, they/them]
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    2 years ago

    I keep coming back to this.
    fuck
    She was only 16
    i see her picture and all i want to do is hug her and tell her its going to be ok but it isn’t it wont ever be ok again they fucking killed her just for being the person she really was

  • JamesConeZone [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    Fuck. They fucking lynched her, egged on by terf propaganda at every level of society. Fuck everything

  • TheLegendaryCarrot23 [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Got misty eyed reading this. Nothing worth saying just typing this on auto pilot. Evil is real. Murder is a reality, but this kind of targeted killing is practically normalized. The relative number of (mostly black) trans women murdered in the US every year alone according to statistics and the number of trans women(and just LGBTQ+ in general of course) that are homeless [in the US and Britain alone] mirror aspects of historical moments that reflect the worst things human beings are capable of.

  • HornyOnMain
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    2 years ago

    Fuck she’s younger than me. And those scum killed her

    I don’t even have the heart to put up a burning british flag. This country is rotten to the core with fascism and it has the arrogance to pretend to be progressive

    I’m genuinely starting to consider just forcing myself to stop examining my gender and never transitioning to a women or something in between for my own safety. In the newspaper today on the front page there was an article calling for stopping all trans care for teenagers (it used puberty blockers as an example). I just feel so tired of this disgusting corpse of a country

    • GenderIsOpSec [she/her]
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      2 years ago
      cw: mentions of suicide

      These fucking pieces of shit want to force us back into the closet, they celebrate each one of us that commits suicide and delight themselves silly when we are killed. Fuck these people. Do NOT let them win, you deserve to be happy.

      I waited until I was 32 before transitioning, and this time has been the happiest in my life, if you're even slightly wondering just do it. If these fucking sewer dwellers get mad, they can eat shit and die.

      • HornyOnMain
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        2 years ago

        Thanks for your encouragement. Im only 19 right now and gender is fucking weird, I’m not sure if I’m a trans woman or what, but I’m certain that I’m definitely something that isn’t cis male and I think I want to start hrt as soon as possible and then see whether I want to continue or not.

        I’m a complete mess of a person, and my dad’s really transphobic because he basically gets all of his opinions directly from British right wing news sources (he also gets vaguely antisemitic and racist against Italians when he drinks), I think his opinions are malleable enough that if it turns out that I am trans and I came out he’d probably come to accept me as a woman but I just can’t be sure and that’s so scary.

        And also I have a genetic hair condition that means my hair is really short and straggly (not alopecia) and my sister also has it to a lesser degree and she always gets mistaken for a boy and I don’t know if I could take that.

        I’m sorry for dumping this on you in the comments I should probably write it somewhere else instead but I just need to get it off my chest

        • GenderIsOpSec [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          its cool :cat-trans: i cant give any "good" advice and i dont even know if you'd want any, but like other comrades have said waiting leads to nothing good. ill carry the visible scars for the rest of my life

          https://genderdysphoria.fyi/en/ this may be helpful

    • machiabelly [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      I transitioned because I knew that there was no other life for me worth living. Just remember that both paths take courage but only one has a chance of getting better.

      I send you all of my love. :cat-trans:

    • artificialset [she/her, fae/faer]
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      2 years ago

      Just adding my experience as well that I waited until 26 to start transitioning to make sure I moved out of an unsafe living environment, but I still regret not starting sooner. Ignoring these feelings leads to nothing good. It was so miserable having to wait.

    • cawsby [he/him]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      There is nothing NSFW. Do we need CW on all murder stories now?

      • Alaskaball [comrade/them]MA
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        2 years ago

        Is murder and a description of the method of murder not a disturbing topic that not all users may want to subject themselves to?

        • cawsby [he/him]
          hexagon
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          2 years ago

          I'll CW murders from now on, but I reserve NSFW for gore, porn, and edgelord content.

    • kristina [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      won the lotto on transitioning early just to get this... god damn the UK, FUCK the anglo media and their little joy ride with our lives.

    • Mardoniush [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      They're 15 year old dumb shits. I'm not saying they don't deserve a bad time, they may be minors but they have agency. But they're the henchmen, not the villains.

      The people you want drawn and quartered are the terfs, the fash, the yellow jounalists, and every policeman, health care officer, social worker, parent, and school teacher who poured this poison into their heads and failed to protect trans people when it was their fucking duty, as professionals and human beings.

      Those are the heads I want on tower hill.

        • Mardoniush [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          I guess, but where's the limit? Would you kill an 11 year old? A 7 year old? Younger?! You're really willing to slide that dagger in yourself, eye for an eye?

          They're Children because we believe they are not yet fully responsible for what they do. They don't have fully developed capacity to reason, even if it's developed enough to be partially responsible. I don't believe theyre fully responsible for murder for the same reason I don't think they can consent to sex.

          I have been bullied and I was assaulted by other children as a child, to the point of hospitalisation. I don't want to do those things to my bullies and I never did even in my revenge fantasies. I wanted them to fucking stop, to admit their shame publically, and then to stop others from being bullied.

          They're not the children of the fucking Tsar they're idiots who've destroyed the life of a poor young woman along with their own. What material purpose would killing them possibly serve? Is "terfs, we'll leave you alive to spew bullshit but threaten to kill any child that listens to you" really the praxis we want to take?

          I really, honestly don't believe in vengence without purpose. Its fucking idealist. We have more important people to kill.

          EDIT: I just want to make it clear that fighting back against those hurting you, in the moment or even pre-emptively, is always morally correct. My argument is purely about retributive punishment. Also, collective revolutionary violence, while it may go too far, is also justified.

          • kingspooky [he/him, they/them]
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            2 years ago

            I have been bullied and I was assaulted by other children as a child, to the point of hospitalisation. I don’t want to do those things to my bullies and I never did even in my revenge fantasies.

            This is the reason I'm engaging. Because I was too, brutally, for four years. They broke my nose at one point for fun. And I promise you I do not feel the same way as you about it. I would burn those motherfuckers alive if I could, personally. No one deserves to go through what people put us through and your desire to be nonviolent does not extend to others in that situation. You know what ever made it stop? Fighting back so hard and so vicious that I permanently maimed someone. Hitting over and over and over again with a lock in my fist until I broke his fucking orbital socket and made him need glasses for the rest of his life. Nothing short of that ever made anything stop for a second because violence is the only language bullies understand. Sometimes making an example out of the worst of them is the ONLY thing that makes it stop, and even then only because the others will be hesitant to tangle with someone they now know will do their level best to kill them. If you really wanna know why I feel so strongly about this specific case DM me, I do not intend to be hostile towards you but I don't want to air my entire traumatic past on this message.
            edit just in case this wasn't clear: I think you seem like a really sweet person trying to have your heart in a good place, I just hope you can understand that not everyone who was horribly bullied is just ok with being nonviolent to their abusers.

      • Kuori [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        "they're children!"

        i know. so was she. and they deserve to die as much as she deserved to live.

        • Mardoniush [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          I don't think anyone deserves to die. If Mao could spare and reform Puyi what place do I have to condemn a few 15 year olds? I'd rather not have the terfs have 3 deaths on their hands instead of 1.

          There are people who need killing though. Not because they deserve it, though perhaps they do. But because they pose a current threat to humankind. These kids aren't a threat anymore (I hope). I hope one day they realise what they've done.

          Maybe that sounds like lib moralising while people are dying in the streets, instead of acknowledging the appropriate use of terror on our enemies, I don't think so, but maybe it is.