If any car had 10% of these issues, they would not be able to sell a single Unit again
Not to defend Tesla but lol, you should look up your state's lemon laws and see how many cars are repurchased/etc due to being certifiably lemons. Jaguar and Jeep for example? Jaguars especially for being a 'luxury' brand, were/are notorious for having various electrical issues or shitting the bed after 20k miles, but they're still around today.
For example, here's NJ's list of vehicles repurchased under their (or similar states') lemon laws for the last 12 model years: https://www.njconsumeraffairs.gov/llu/Documents/Vehicles-Branded-Under-The-New-Jersey-Lemon-Law.pdf
Tesla - 688
Jeep - More than 1,000
Jaguar - 541
Ford - More than 1,000
Toyota - 845
Volkswagen - More than 1,000
Volvo - 426
All this to say that cars in general are shit.
Absolute numbers don't tell the tale... lemon percentage of total cars sold would be more bette
Those aren't absolute numbers - just the ones that were actually repurchased by the manufacturer due to the lemon laws. You could probably multiply the numbers by 10 and get a more 'accurate' number of the lemons but not every car that IS a lemon will actually get marked as such. same thing with lemon law court cases - not every manufacturer may get sued for producing lemons provided they're honoring warranties and repairs. But either way, I do see what you're saying so here:
Show(source: https://publicinterestnetwork.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/Auto-Lemon-Index-CAP-CARS-FG-May22-1.pdf)
GM only produced/sold 78 cars per lemon law case between 2018-2021 in California.
Jaguar - 83
Fiat - 107
Ford - 148
All this to say; invest in a bike comrades.
Interesting stuff.
Tesla Motors primarily sells vehicles directly to consumers and its case numbers may be affected by its use of arbitration, see page 21.
page 21
there are millions more seriously defective vehicles being driven on California’s freeways than court records capture. Another important reason for this gap is the use of a rigged, privatized system called “arbi-tration” that allows automakers to avoid accountability under consumer protec- tion laws.67 Differences in the frequency with which lemon disputes find their way to arbitration may be one factor in variations in Lemon Law cases across manufacturers, particularly for Tesla.
because the company is uniquely able to avoid Lemon Law litigation by imposing arbitration on its customers, the relatively low number of lemon cases filed in relation to Tesla’s market share should not necessarily be taken as an indicator of superior vehicle quality.
lmao
It's an imperfect measurement at best, although I was pleasantly surprised to learn while reading this that California's lemon law applies to motorcycles as well. Neat!
Yeah I wasn't trying to say that Tesla has a low number of lemons or anything like that - only pointing out that car manufacturers in general tend to produce a lot of shit vehicles that are dangerous for one reason or another. If every Ford and Tesla was taken off the road, they'd probably be a ton safer in general LOL
M'lord, the hind slats of mine wagon hath come loose. I hath been emasculated, as well, but that is another tale.
here in my purse where they will stay until you make better life decisions
"my nuts were missing", the rare crossover post between egg_irl and the cybertruck forums
Edit: this also reminded me of the "indie" band The Fratellis' 2006 banger: got ma nuts from a hippy
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
220 posts on the Isses forum out of 3,878 total cars sold is a very very bad statistic. That would mean over 5% of owners have made a post about their issues - actual failure rate is likely much higher. I don't know about you lot, but I've never made a post online about problems with a car.
They've only sold 4k??? How the fuck do you sell that few of anything and yet reveal so many problems. All the buyers will be hardcore fans, too.
If your first 4k users have revealed this much shit, then you simply cannot have any actual kind of QA process. We have only seen the start of the issues this thing will suffer from.
If I get a neuralink will my bazinga crate go faster? I got like... thirty monkeys and they all got a death wish
They've only sold like 4000 of these death traps, looks like at least 200 threads on this forum...
I thought they recalled all the cybertrucks because of that gas pedal problem
Wait his nuts are missing and the nuts for his cybertruck didnt arrive?
