Those guys are really trying to start ww3 and maybe now they did it. Hope Raisi is ok but its hard to belive
Even if Israel or the CIA didnt do it, it doesnt matter. It was inevitable that when they racheted up tensions with an enemy and kept it high for over half a year that something could happen that could be misinterpreted, or distorted. It was an incredibly dangerous and irresponsible thing to do. Assuming you wanted to avoid a war. No one believes Israel wants to avoid a war. And what is even the point? Israel doesnt have the ability to invade or strategically bomb Iran.
How could iran not respond now. They've ignored so many provocations and no one can argue that it didnt just invite more.
Yeah, but when we consider Soleimani death, its hard to not raise some eyebrows
It's interesting to me that he was flying in a convoy of three helicopters and that was the one that went down. They're dangerous in general and the fog conditions look intense so probably an equal if not greater chance of it being a random accident, but that detail stands out to me.
Flying in a helicopter in general is a bad idea and liable to lead to death when you’re not in the good graces of the west (or even factions in your own country). Doing so while an unhinged Zionist regime is trying to start a war with you to deflect from its genocide and draw the US in to cover for it is doubly so.
This smells like Mossad. For once the US wouldn’t want this but the Zionists have nothing to lose and have already shown they don’t care. They regularly operate in Iran conducting assassinations of nuclear scientists and bombing funerals.
This is going to sound silly but why are helicopters more dangerous? Is it because they’re more private than planes (except private jets, of course) which would make targeting way easier?
They're less safe than small planes as I understand it. There are ways to sabotage them so they come apart in flight in ways that are almost impossible to detect upon a normal pre-flight inspection. Not to mention mechanical failures as they're more complex in principle of operation than planes. And yes their small size makes them prime choices for assassinations when you don't want the heat or issues of bringing down a passenger airliner.
Brace Belden of Trueanon is among others someone who has joked about this and even put it in his trueanon rules.
There are just so many ways the zionists could have done it. In a literal fog no less, they could flown a low-flying in waiting drone right up into it and caused catastrophic mechanical failure without even using explosives, they could have sabotaged it at some point, they could have done something to disorient the pilot. Maybe it genuinely was a fuck-up of the Iranians, the pilot made a mistake, they for some unfathomable reason didn't maintain the helicopter properly, etc but it's just so suspicious when unhinged zionists are around and the fact if they thought there was even a chance they could get away with it with plausible deniability they'd do so.
Thanks for explaining. This whole situation is making have to hold back my conspiracy brain, it’s just too much of a coincidence for me that this happened while the Slovakian president was shot, also Irans response to Israel as well. It’s fishy.
It's not unreasonable. The gameboard the US has right now is not great. It cannot accomplish its goals with raw force, there isn't enough force to go around and it would cause too much foreign and domestic resistance to try and do so. So color revolutions, intelligence stuff, coups, assassinations, are all very much on the board and in play as the tools the US has left.
One need look no further than Georgia (the country) and the protests there. There is unfortunately a decent chance that the sitting president with the NATO trained armed forces there may pull a coup against the legislature if they try and pass that law, probably under the pretext of protecting the people, the usual color revolution narrative.
One shouldn't get too bogged down in the nitty-gritty, it's alright to assume conspiracies, entertain them when they make sense like this, recall back to past plays by the US in a similar vein last century but fixating too much on unknowns like this which unlike a color revolution really has an air of nobody but maybe the Iranians truly knows.
the way it generates vertical lift with the blades and it's positioning on the frame + small/light body makes it super easy for it to lose balance and crash
I’m glad I’ve always been wary of them, then. I’m sure they’re useful for many things but maybe not transporting world leaders 😬 Anyway thanks for the info!
I don't know why when rich/important people fly in helicopters, EACH passenger doesn't have a dedicated skydiver with a parachute ready to attach gear and jump out at any second
I’d imagine because when a helicopter is going down is absolutely not the time to jump. Depending on how it goes down, you’re at risk of both rotors or just getting hit by the helicopter itself.
Helicopters don't go down in an orderly manner such that you could easily skydive from it.