I was walking into work the other day and hearing my coworkers talk about North Korea and how crazy oppressed they are and if you defect they kill your entire family unto 8 generations and I just had to keep my mouth shut and get my coffee and not talk about how fucking ridiculous an assertion that is on so many levels and how Worst Korea pays people to lie about North Korean conditions and treat those who don't like second class citizens, let alone speak of those who defected and then went back because they were so miserable
I like my coworkers, they are great fun to talk to and I love going to karaoke with them, but Jesus Christ I really had to bite my fucking tongue and not cause any drama, I don't need to get a reputation as the guy who stans Kim Jong-Un at work
Oh god I am doing a liberalism he's coming for me now oh god :mao-aggro-shining:
It's bizarre how many otherwise normal people think other countries operate on magic. Especially when it comes to the DPRK. They think the whole place is just starving peasants, soldiers, and Kim Jong-un. How that's supposed to be a functioning economy doesn't matter. Sanctions don't matter, the DPRK's history doesn't matter. It's a topsy turvy funhouse mirror of a country.
Even moreso when you're told from birth that you live in the best country on Earth and every other nation is a shithole with oppressive governments and living standards far below you're own.
I try not to hit people with direct propaganda anymore and just get them into propagandists. Like IDaT, and then eventually I hit them The Haircut. Also. The Dollop or Citations Needed they might be into, etc.
Oh, yeah same for me for all the seasons. Even the Iraq stuff covered a lot of behind the scenes I was unaware of. I had no clue about the Exiled Iraqi royalty guy and all the crap he was involved.
What do they mean by "8 generations"? Like, if they mean the next 8 generations, that's not possible, because if they kill all living descendants, they can't have more. If they mean all 8 generations of ancestors, up to 8th cousins, then that will likely kill almost the entire population of North Korea.
I've heard several explanations of this. They think your descendants will also be in prison, because they think there are like arranged matings in Korean prisons where the guards will force a woman and man together, then the baby will spend their entire life in prison.
They think it's basically chattel slavery, forced breeding and everything.
I believe this all comes from exactly one guy's testimony by the way
So North Korea has two prison programs. One where they force prisoners to push trains all day, and one where they force you to have babies only to watch them die in prison. And they do this with 50% of the country and still somehow have a functional society. Wow
I was walking into work the other day and hearing my coworkers talk about North Korea and how crazy oppressed they are and if you defect they kill your entire family unto 8 generations and I just had to keep my mouth shut and get my coffee and not talk about how fucking ridiculous an assertion that is on so many levels and how Worst Korea pays people to lie about North Korean conditions and treat those who don't like second class citizens, let alone speak of those who defected and then went back because they were so miserable
I like my coworkers, they are great fun to talk to and I love going to karaoke with them, but Jesus Christ I really had to bite my fucking tongue and not cause any drama, I don't need to get a reputation as the guy who stans Kim Jong-Un at work
Oh god I am doing a liberalism he's coming for me now oh god :mao-aggro-shining:
It's bizarre how many otherwise normal people think other countries operate on magic. Especially when it comes to the DPRK. They think the whole place is just starving peasants, soldiers, and Kim Jong-un. How that's supposed to be a functioning economy doesn't matter. Sanctions don't matter, the DPRK's history doesn't matter. It's a topsy turvy funhouse mirror of a country.
Americans will hear a news story about North Korea, declare "that's unbelievable!", and then insist on believing the story is 100% truth.
It's easy to believe other countries operate on magic when you've been raised to believe that your own country operates on magic.
invisible hand / trickle down economics / everything good somehow destroys jobs / all economics is finance and production does not matter
Even moreso when you're told from birth that you live in the best country on Earth and every other nation is a shithole with oppressive governments and living standards far below you're own.
anonymously print out Red Sails articles and post them in the break room
There's cameras literally everywhere, there is no anonymously posting communist propaganda in the break room
In Bad Country you can be stripped of your livelihood for political agitation against the oppressive regime
trip the power, spray black paint onto the cameras
this kind of hellish existence is probably why they are trying to make themselves feel better with tales of how bad it is in Bad Place
mfw I go to work every day
I try not to hit people with direct propaganda anymore and just get them into propagandists. Like IDaT, and then eventually I hit them The Haircut. Also. The Dollop or Citations Needed they might be into, etc.
Blowback series on the Korean War was very revelatory for me. I had no knowledge of that conflict beyond episodes of MASH.
Oh, yeah same for me for all the seasons. Even the Iraq stuff covered a lot of behind the scenes I was unaware of. I had no clue about the Exiled Iraqi royalty guy and all the crap he was involved.
What do they mean by "8 generations"? Like, if they mean the next 8 generations, that's not possible, because if they kill all living descendants, they can't have more. If they mean all 8 generations of ancestors, up to 8th cousins, then that will likely kill almost the entire population of North Korea.
I've heard several explanations of this. They think your descendants will also be in prison, because they think there are like arranged matings in Korean prisons where the guards will force a woman and man together, then the baby will spend their entire life in prison.
They think it's basically chattel slavery, forced breeding and everything.
I believe this all comes from exactly one guy's testimony by the way
So North Korea has two prison programs. One where they force prisoners to push trains all day, and one where they force you to have babies only to watch them die in prison. And they do this with 50% of the country and still somehow have a functional society. Wow
What can you say? Juche just works :arm-L::kim-drip::arm-R:
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Point this out and most Americans will just double down.