https://twitter.com/CherryPlaybunny/status/1305989421376901120
Do people who are against universal healthcare realize it has worked in nearly every other country in the global north for decades, and currently at half the cost of total healthcare in the US? I mean, it can't all just be bad faith arguing, can it?
Americans are fed mountains of bullshit for our entire lives about basically everything so it's hard to tell sometimes.
This, there’s a lot of scaremongering over death panels, or insane wait times, or inferior treatment in countries with nationalized healthcare. And maybe there’s a little truth to these accusations, but in America you effectively deal with things like that if you’re not a millionaire. It’s not unheard of for someone to just die instead of getting treatment because they can’t afford it, or have to settle for a crappy doctor/hospital because it’s all their insurance covers.
My dad has been quoting the same unnamed friend who had to wait a few months for an elective knee surgery for years. "Okay but in the US they just would not get surgery at all" doesn't phase him. Idfk.
I think there's even less than "little" truth to those accusations. "Death panels" just simply aren't a thing. Patients in the US already wait hours in the ED for non-emergent problems, and seeing a specialist can take weeks to months for many people. And if anything people get inferior treatment NOW because insurance companies literally deny patients certain medications or treatments. Not to mention all the coding regulations that just add bloat to charting, all so that insurance companies can pay out a lower amount if all their arbitrary hoops haven't been jumped through.
"I don't want the government to be in charge of healthcare!" So you'd rather have a private company that A) exists solely to say "no" as often as they possibly can and B) isn't ran by healthcare professionals who like, you know, know medicine?
Plus all the other financial and moral incentives to switch to a single payer system. In my opinion there is not a single GOOD reason why we should keep the current system. Literally none of the arguments hold any water.
Edit: oh and also universal healthcare would cost less in the long run because there would be more effort on the preventative side of things. PLUS, people would seek help for problems sooner and disease processes would be caught sooner when they are cheaper to treat, rather than wait until they are on death's doorstep and a problem that could have been fixed for $50,000 is now a multi-million dollar problem.
American Exceptionalism
If it hasn't worked here it ain't worked yet.
It's that (willful) conflation of healthcare and health insurance. They hear "you'll lose your insurance plan!" and don't listen to the rest
You know how the average suburbanite American would literally stab their siblings If it guaranteed they a slightly better car? It’s that mentality but for doctors appointments.
American exceptionalism. We're the best at being willfully swindled
Does it count as bad faith if the people actually believe the bullshit?
I love the Explainer Mode(TM) people go into for these mind numbingly stupid analogies. There's nothing so stupid that you can't go into Explainer Mode to put yourself in the headspace of feeling like you're making a nuanced point that nobody other than you understand.
In other words, "the Universal Healthcare Understander has logged on."
"Look sweaty, this election is like if you are at a [food] shop, and you really want [food item] but you are informed that they only have [less desirable food item] and a literal human poop. Do you want to eat the poop? If you don't vote that's like saying you're OK with eating the poop. Yes, I did say this exact same thing 4 years ago, why?"
Oh yeah they're also trans according to their bio adding a whole other layer of "fuck you got mine".
Not even "take your house" which is at least logical, not even "dismantle your house" which would at least allow reuse of some materials. No, they go with "burn down your house" which makes exactly no sense.
Apparently if that homeless Joe goes to a doctor at least once in his life it means you will never, ever again be able to go to a doctor yourself, therefore ruining your life permanently because apparently somehow even if that were true it also means you can't, ever, under any circumstance just be healthy without going to a doctor... Exercise? Good diet? Pfft now you are coming for my freedom to eat 3 megaultrasuperburgers with Coke every day for lunch too? Damn commies...
You see, socialism is when you destroy things, and the more you destroy, the socialister it is.
For real, I had to read that like 5 times before I remotely understood it
Are we really roasting anime avatars with 8 followers like they're meaningful people?
Watch out you might get what you're after Boom babies strange but not a stranger I'm an ordinary guy Burning down the house
This is a great take to have when people are literally dying of a virus while their houses are burning to the ground at the same time.
Yeah it wasn't exactly about roasting this person but more the fact how personally fucking offensive it was when they replied with that while I have family still evacuated.
If we give poor people health care, then where are people who already have health care gonna go? Why does everyone keep saying "zero sum"? Is that like Chinese dim sum for health care??
