From what incredibly limited research I have done (literally just asking ChatGPT), it seems like they actually set up mutual aid networks in Tulsa. But I just want to know the general analysis of Black Wall Street.

  • RION [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    literally just asking ChatGPT

    I don't wanna be too harsh but this might actually be worse than looking up nothing at all, ChatGPT will freely spew nonsense if that's what it thinks you want to hear. Even Wikipedia is a better source.

    As to the question itself I'm not particularly knowledgeable on this or any other Black Wall Streets in the US (a few come up in Google searches), but I think some ethnographic work would be necessary useful to get into what is mutual aid vs simply engaging economically along ethnic lines because no one else will deal with you (or if the latter is even a disqualifying factor for the former).

    Would recommend poking around JSTOR and other libraries for any literature if you really wanna get stuck in.

      • MoreAmphibians [none/use name]
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        1 year ago

        It absolutely does, the technical term for it is a "hallucination". It will not only make things up but it will make something up and keep it consistent within a conversation.

        • mimeschoolprof [he/him,comrade/them]
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          1 year ago

          Don't people use it for essays and shit? Wouldn't it be painfully obvious for anyone reading that it's an AI-generated work.

          • MoreAmphibians [none/use name]
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            1 year ago

            The longer an AI generated work is the more obvious it becomes that it's AI generated. People do use AI for essays and do get caught because the AI makes shit up. You can miss this if you're not familiar with the topic.

            AI is also heavily used in journalism. Most front-page stuff is still written by humans but a lot of boilerplate reporting is written algorithmically. The practice will only increase in the future.

  • macabrett
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    1 year ago

    I have to be extremely honest with you: asking ChatGPT followed by asking Hexbear is not a great way of learning about things.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      1 year ago

      It's on about the same level as asking a ouija board or workshopping it with an improv group.

  • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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    1 year ago

    Go watch these two videos on Black Wall Street:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LaxQ2EEMtE

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ztp0LC9Hb3c

    The show notes also have a pdf of the report done by the Oklahoma Commission on what transpired: https://www.okhistory.org/research/forms/freport.pdf. The last pages of the report are especially illuminating because they're maps of what happened.

    it seems like they actually set up mutual aid networks in Tulsa.

    Nah, that's not true. The videos go over how Tulsa being a Black Wall Street is a myth that's completely overblown. Most Black residents there were poor workers.

    • Llituro [he/him, they/them]
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      1 year ago

      The videos go over how Tulsa being a Black Wall Street is a myth that’s completely overblown. Most Black residents there were poor workers.

      well, i guess it's important to know that they weren't even "rich" when the white lynch mob burned their homes to the ground.

  • D61 [any]
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    1 year ago

    General tldr take, not much more than at the vibes level, so take this with a pound of salt.

    The black community being shut out of pretty much all services that the whites in their communities had,left a vacuum. The few black community members with some amount of wealth were able to create parallel structures, like banks and grocery stores and doctors offices, to meet the needs of the community. Then they got to get wealthier.

    Black capitalism is still capitalism and white racists were gonna racist.