"Nuclear war is preferable to Russian victory in Ukraine"
Remember how up until about two years ago nuclear war was pretty much the one thing that all of us agreed on? From Hoxhaites all the way to the Proud Boys, nobody wanted a nuclear war, and definitely nobody wanted to die in one.
But now? These takes are, holy shit, common. What sorcery did they unleash on them to make them turn around like this?
What sorcery did they unleash on them to make them turn around like this?
The internet. This is what the internet does to your brain if you don't log off. It's such a hyper-alienated form of media since it's all tailored to you so there a very really danger that if you don't have a healthy relationship with the internet/social media, you can fall into a scenario where ideology just rattles around in your brain until you get so caught up in bullshit that you can't see objective material realities like "it would be bad if a nuclear war happened." I mean why does this person care about Ukraine to begin with? The internet/news told them to care. This person isn't like this about Palestine, you know?
"What sorcery did they unleash on them to make them turn around like this?''
I read an article about how an institution during cold war asked a group who studied STEMS and the humanities and ask what you've do if you have the nuclear arsenal. Most of the STEMSlords managed to annihilate the world multiple times because it is just logical to nuke the enemy in a first strike to destroy the second strike capabilities (this line of thinking made it into reagan era btw). The humanities department manage to prevent MAD
Reddit is full of Rational (tm) and pseud-stemslord. go figure
yeah, not to go all Marshal McLuhan here but the medium is the message. we can't underscore how fucking weird that website is, especially if you're talking about politics on there. Reddit can be great if you wanna talk to people who know way more than you'll ever need to know about a piece of music equipment or find out cool facts about sports but you can also see some sicko shit from people who also post in tech related subs. i work in tech so it's not like i think everyone is like this but the most I'M STEM AND BETTER THAN YOU BC I LOGIC coworkers are basically pro genocide if it furthers American interests.
it's almost like get politics out of ''''''''non political''''''' issues managed to create a bunch of psychopaths that see people as datas on a spread.
It's funny how at my work, the non political people can talk about certain issues with horrid consequences and the response you get is ''oh it's 10% affected''
I'll never forget a certain "man on the street" interview that was done during the War on Terror, where they found a surprisingly high number of people who said we should just indiscriminately nuke the Middle East. I think American nuclear bloodthirst is as old as American nukes, and the only thing that's prevented us from nuking anyone since 1945 has been realpolitik.
I literally saw people saying we should nuke Russia in 2016 but that doesn't negate my point. For one, this isn't normal. Even the most normie Ukraine lib thinks a nuclear war with Russia is bad.
People in the western imperial core are increasingly aware, even if they'd never admit it, that their grip on the world is slipping. When the Soviet Union collapsed in the 90s, liberals thought they'd won. They thought that they'd become the eternal masters of the world, that they'd get to use the global south countries as sources of raw materials and slave labor forever. For a while, it seemed like they were right, but that sun is setting. China grows more powerful by the day and global south nations flock to it as plans are drawn up for alternatives to the petrodollar. The West's failures in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Syria show that it is increasingly unable to bend the Global South to its will, while at home, its infrastructure crumbles and its economy lurches from crisis to crisis.
And this terrifies and enrages western liberals. Many of these people are young enough to have no memory of the Cold War. They have literally never experienced a time when the entire world didn't bow to them. Their attitude is summed up fantastically by a quote from Richard Spencer when he got caught on hot mic following the alt-right's failure at Charlottesville:
CW: Racism
"My ancestors fucking enslaved those little pieces of fucking shit. I rule the fucking world. Those pieces of fucking shit get ruled by people like me. They look up and see a face like mine looking down at them. That’s how the fucking world works."
It's not hard to see why this made headlines. It's shockingly, grotesquely racist and colonialist. It's also, underneath their veneer of civility, exactly what western liberals believe. It was easy for them to keep that mask up when they were winning everywhere all the time, but the more defeats they suffer, the more it will slip.
Remember how up until about two years ago nuclear war was pretty much the one thing that all of us agreed on? From Hoxhaites all the way to the Proud Boys, nobody wanted a nuclear war, and definitely nobody wanted to die in one.
"Nuclear war is preferable to Russian victory in Ukraine"
Remember how up until about two years ago nuclear war was pretty much the one thing that all of us agreed on? From Hoxhaites all the way to the Proud Boys, nobody wanted a nuclear war, and definitely nobody wanted to die in one.
But now? These takes are, holy shit, common. What sorcery did they unleash on them to make them turn around like this?
The internet. This is what the internet does to your brain if you don't log off. It's such a hyper-alienated form of media since it's all tailored to you so there a very really danger that if you don't have a healthy relationship with the internet/social media, you can fall into a scenario where ideology just rattles around in your brain until you get so caught up in bullshit that you can't see objective material realities like "it would be bad if a nuclear war happened." I mean why does this person care about Ukraine to begin with? The internet/news told them to care. This person isn't like this about Palestine, you know?
"What sorcery did they unleash on them to make them turn around like this?''
I read an article about how an institution during cold war asked a group who studied STEMS and the humanities and ask what you've do if you have the nuclear arsenal. Most of the STEMSlords managed to annihilate the world multiple times because it is just logical to nuke the enemy in a first strike to destroy the second strike capabilities (this line of thinking made it into reagan era btw). The humanities department manage to prevent MAD
Reddit is full of Rational (tm) and pseud-stemslord. go figure
yeah, not to go all Marshal McLuhan here but the medium is the message. we can't underscore how fucking weird that website is, especially if you're talking about politics on there. Reddit can be great if you wanna talk to people who know way more than you'll ever need to know about a piece of music equipment or find out cool facts about sports but you can also see some sicko shit from people who also post in tech related subs. i work in tech so it's not like i think everyone is like this but the most I'M STEM AND BETTER THAN YOU BC I LOGIC coworkers are basically pro genocide if it furthers American interests.
it's almost like get politics out of ''''''''non political''''''' issues managed to create a bunch of psychopaths that see people as datas on a spread.
It's funny how at my work, the non political people can talk about certain issues with horrid consequences and the response you get is ''oh it's 10% affected''
We had the internet before 2022, and it didn't make anyone go pro-nuclear war.
I'll never forget a certain "man on the street" interview that was done during the War on Terror, where they found a surprisingly high number of people who said we should just indiscriminately nuke the Middle East. I think American nuclear bloodthirst is as old as American nukes, and the only thing that's prevented us from nuking anyone since 1945 has been realpolitik.
Yep, pro-nuclear first strike use on enemies probably consistently polls higher than most politicians
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I literally saw people saying we should nuke Russia in 2016 but that doesn't negate my point. For one, this isn't normal. Even the most normie Ukraine lib thinks a nuclear war with Russia is bad.
True, but we also weren't in a proxy war with a nuclear power.
People in the western imperial core are increasingly aware, even if they'd never admit it, that their grip on the world is slipping. When the Soviet Union collapsed in the 90s, liberals thought they'd won. They thought that they'd become the eternal masters of the world, that they'd get to use the global south countries as sources of raw materials and slave labor forever. For a while, it seemed like they were right, but that sun is setting. China grows more powerful by the day and global south nations flock to it as plans are drawn up for alternatives to the petrodollar. The West's failures in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Syria show that it is increasingly unable to bend the Global South to its will, while at home, its infrastructure crumbles and its economy lurches from crisis to crisis.
And this terrifies and enrages western liberals. Many of these people are young enough to have no memory of the Cold War. They have literally never experienced a time when the entire world didn't bow to them. Their attitude is summed up fantastically by a quote from Richard Spencer when he got caught on hot mic following the alt-right's failure at Charlottesville:
CW: Racism
It's not hard to see why this made headlines. It's shockingly, grotesquely racist and colonialist. It's also, underneath their veneer of civility, exactly what western liberals believe. It was easy for them to keep that mask up when they were winning everywhere all the time, but the more defeats they suffer, the more it will slip.
good post
also thanks for making me somehow feel even more revulsion for richard spencer than i already did
This is Possadist erasure!
:pog-dolphin: gang
Covid era made us devalue the lives of others and our own lives + power structure stoking jingoism = actually it'd be fine to die in nuclear hellfire
All it takes is a simple scratch