https://redsails.org/the-social-basis-and-logic-of-trotskyism/
https://redsails.org/trotsky-on-state-capitalism/
There are some major disagreeements at the basis of marxist analyses which are most inconspicuously represented by the disagreements between Trotsky and the ML's/bolsheviks. idgaf about trostky anymore until he is brought up to make points about modern analyses, in which case I will always bring up his Petty bourgeois moralisms and anti-revolutionary positions which are deviations from a well-grounded analysis.
When you speak to north african communists (something I have had the privelege to do multiple times), Trostky often is a representation of the way that western communists show their chauvinism and inability to understand any revolution that doesn't represent western petty-bourgeois values.
When you speak to north african communists (something I have had the privelege to do multiple times),
Would you be open to expanding on this experience a little bit? Might help me get the point across to a dogmatic (and anti-AES) trotskyist friend who, in my opinion, would make a great comrade if they were able to challenge their own chauvinism
Yeah, it's not too much deeper than I already said tbh, but just the fact that Trotskyists will focus on the perfect revolution which immediately perfectly values "democracy" and "from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs" and shit like that without being willing to acknowledge that the struggles aren't even to this level yet. There's a ton of work to be done before this is a realistic expectation, seeing as the US will invade pretty fuckin fast or send agents to fuck with democracies. White countries often in het a bit of a pass on this because of chauvinism and an understanding of struggles, while global southern countries are castigated because the superstructural values were different before revolution and conditions even moreso different.
The specific convos don't have much added, but someone who represents this position well that you could read is Max Ajl (Tunisian). He's why I've talked to people about this
https://redsails.org/the-social-basis-and-logic-of-trotskyism/ https://redsails.org/trotsky-on-state-capitalism/ There are some major disagreeements at the basis of marxist analyses which are most inconspicuously represented by the disagreements between Trotsky and the ML's/bolsheviks. idgaf about trostky anymore until he is brought up to make points about modern analyses, in which case I will always bring up his Petty bourgeois moralisms and anti-revolutionary positions which are deviations from a well-grounded analysis.
When you speak to north african communists (something I have had the privelege to do multiple times), Trostky often is a representation of the way that western communists show their chauvinism and inability to understand any revolution that doesn't represent western petty-bourgeois values.
Would you be open to expanding on this experience a little bit? Might help me get the point across to a dogmatic (and anti-AES) trotskyist friend who, in my opinion, would make a great comrade if they were able to challenge their own chauvinism
Yeah, it's not too much deeper than I already said tbh, but just the fact that Trotskyists will focus on the perfect revolution which immediately perfectly values "democracy" and "from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs" and shit like that without being willing to acknowledge that the struggles aren't even to this level yet. There's a ton of work to be done before this is a realistic expectation, seeing as the US will invade pretty fuckin fast or send agents to fuck with democracies. White countries often in het a bit of a pass on this because of chauvinism and an understanding of struggles, while global southern countries are castigated because the superstructural values were different before revolution and conditions even moreso different.
The specific convos don't have much added, but someone who represents this position well that you could read is Max Ajl (Tunisian). He's why I've talked to people about this