I was looking up PC controller prices and found this... $136 off?! $136 WOULD BE TOO EXPENSIVE IF THAT WERE THE ENTIRE PRICE, LET ALONE $735.

I don't care if it's made of fucking unicorn farts, why the fuck should it be that expensive?

Also aparently xbox controllers are now like $250. Who the fuck is paying more than $50 for a controller lmao wtf has gaming become.

Fuck that noise, I don't care if it performs like shit, I'm buying a shitty ali express controller for $10 instead lmao.

Gamers delenda est. :gamer-gulag:

  • dumpster_dove [he/him]
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    1 年前

    I was vainly hoping that GPU prices would come down with the crypto bubble burst, but when I think about it it's not like the manufacturers would willingly give up those juicy profit margins they've been seeing for the last couple years.

    • cosecantphi [he/him]
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      1 年前

      Definitely, choosing a GPU was the worst of it. It really looks to me like Nvidia took notice of how easily scalpers were selling RTX 3000 series GPUs for astronomical prices and then decided "well shit, if anyone is going to scalp our customers, it might as well be us now that we know people will still buy these things no matter how expensive they are"

      I wanted to get something around the 4070ti price range, but felt really hesitant about the 4070ti's 12gb VRAM and cut down memory bus width. So then I started looking at AMD GPUs and decided the 7900xt would be amazing with its 20gb of VRAM. But after doing some research I found AMD GPUs are pretty much just toys for gamers and get absolutely blown out of the water by Nvidia GPUs for productive workloads, especially in AI.

      Since I wanted to do some tinkering with AI, blender, video editing, all that good stuff, it looks like I'll have to go Nvidia. But that just leads me back to my original dilemma since those tasks eat up VRAM even more than games do. So it's starting to look like my only option is an RTX 4080 or a used 3090/3090ti. I really don't wanna pay 1200 fucking dollars for a GPU, but there are so few options.

      • dumpster_dove [he/him]
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        1 年前

        yeah it's a shame AMD isn't keeping up with nvidia apart from price/performance in games.

      • SerLava [he/him]
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        1 年前

        I record games with OBS and only a 4080 could let me go back to max framerates which are possible when I don't have OBS on.

      • TrudeauCastroson [he/him]
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        1 年前

        I have the same problem, I'm forced to buy Nvidia for Adobe stuff.

        Idk why AMD doesn't go after the professional or server graphics card market. They're just picking up gamer table scraps. They need to revamp graphics completely, like they did with their ryzen processors that actually get bought by data centres.

        Maybe Intel will eventually get to the point of being good for productivity. I wouldn't get their GPUs because I like my old games, and they didn't figure that out because they prioritized optimizing new games.

      • blobjim [he/him]
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        1 年前

        lol do software programs really need more than 8 GB of VRAM? I can play pretty modern games on my 5 year old computer with 8 (and 8 GB of normal RAM, although that's getting stretched even more), although it's definitely getting up there towards being full when playing a game. I don't use video editors or machine learning stuff though.

        I think people tend to really exaggerate what they "need" in terms of computers. Computers are extremely fast. And software is designed to work with limited resources. I find that the biggest memory hogs are web applications because they're so poorly written and don't care about performance at all (and have to be single-threaded). Any desktop program other than a web app in the browser or Electron desktop application, will probably work fine. I have 8 GB of 2133 MHz main RAM (you can get upwards of 64 GB of 8000 MHz RAM now) and applications still work perfectly fine.

        • cosecantphi [he/him]
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          1 年前

          Yeah outside of really pushing things in blender, it's mostly a problem for AI. 12gb of VRAM will be mostly fine in 1440p gaming for the next few years. But AI eats VRAM like candy, it's actually more important than the speed of the GPU.

          Since I'm probably not going to be upgrading for a very long time, I want to make sure I get enough VRAM so that I won't experience any problems at all for at least the next five to eight years. Hence why I'm considering a used 3090 with 24gb of VRAM over the faster 4080 with 16gb.

          • blobjim [he/him]
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            1 年前

            I don't think resolution has anything to do with bandwidth of the PCIe connection. And a framebuffer for a 4k monitor will probably only take like 33 MB. Multiply that a couple times for all the different ones neeed, and that's not that much. And I can play games with Ultra textures and stuff still using only 8 GB VRAM.

    • SerLava [he/him]
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      1 年前

      The used ones did go down I'm pretty sure, and I also heard like last week that they are finally making some nice mid range cards - the 4060ti is selling for $400, and there are some new pretty good budget cards well under that price as well.

      The 4060ti is between 150% and 180% as good as the 2080, which cost $1000 five years ago (and stayed there, it was probably 1000 dollars or even higher like 2 years ago)

        • SerLava [he/him]
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          1 年前

          Yes absolutely, I can never remember what the recent AMD cards are called to look them up, but they also have very similar cards at very similar prices