Trump is the Republican Party, there is no distinction.

The vast, vast majority of conservatives love him and will vote for him literally no matter what he says or does.

Owning the libs is enough for them, they don't care how bad their material conditions are as long as they get that. Never Trumpers are so few in number that they might as well not exist.

Meanwhile Biden, offering literally no hope or anything worth a shit to people, will convince very few that didn't vote for Hillary 4 years ago to do so for him this time around. Not enough to win at least.

It's like Chapo said: The choices are screaming defiantly into the void as you die and hurting the people you don't like along the way, or dying quietly reminiscing about "the good ol' days".

If those are the 2 choices, the former is gonna be way more attractive to people.

  • gayhobbes [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I struggle to figure out what keeps the average user here coming to this conclusion when there's plenty of evidence to the contrary. Biden isn't running any sort of campaign beyond not Trump, yes, but that's exactly what most Americans want. In a serious economic downturn during a pandemic, the incumbent is going to face a serious uphill battle and Trump has failed to blame anyone else effectively. He's lost seniors and suburbanites, and the RNC's attempt to freak either group out about BLM has been a serious detriment.

    So what's this analysis based on? I don't get it.

    • speedofsoundinvacuum [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      Trump has failed to blame anyone else effectively

      Every conservative has fully bought into the China virus narrative. They want revenge on China, not their jobs back.

      • crispyhexagon [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        china took our jobs by sending the china virus to kill our economy! we gotta go over there and bring them back!

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        Okay, so with his base, but outside of that is that resonating with voters? I'm just not getting where y'all are getting this from.

        • Tactical_thong [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Between the electoral college and the senate, he can retain control with just his base. What are the democrats in the house really prepared to do?

          • gayhobbes [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            The numbers don't pan that out. What do you mean?

    • jack [he/him, comrade/them]
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      I honestly think a ton of people on here actively want Trump to win just to own the libs

      • gayhobbes [he/him]
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        That's what it seems like to me, or that they really want Biden to lose. I'm not rooting for Biden and I'm not voting for him, but I am not eager for Trump to win either. That and none of the indicators seem to be signaling that Trump is going to win right now.

    • GottaJiBooUrns [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      Democrats win the Presidency when they inspire voter turnout. Sure, there are plenty of people for whom "we need to get Cheeto Drumpf OUT" is enough of a reason to vote for Biden, but I feel like the "I'm not Trump" message won't inspire enough turnout.

      • gayhobbes [he/him]
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        Democrats win the presidency on sheer numbers. There's just more Democrats than Republicans, and more independents who skew Democrat.