https://twitter.com/DemSocialists/status/1309929174530916354

    • Bread_In_Baltimore [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I mean you don't have to organize in the DSA. If it's all that's there then I guess go for it. I just don't feel like 100,000 DSA members is going to change anything

            • JayTwo [any]
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              4 years ago

              DSA actually has a clause where if you belong to a demcent org and they think you're causing trouble, they can kick you out for no other reason than belonging to a demcent org.

              There's talk about getting rid of it, and AFAIK it hasn't been used in a very long time, but, currently, it's still there.

              Article I, section 3 of the bylaws:

              Members can be expelled if they are found to be in substantial disagreement with the principles or policies of the organization or if they consistently engage in undemocratic, disruptive behavior or if they are under the discipline of any self-defined democratic-centralist organization. Members facing expulsion must receive written notice of charges against them and must be given the opportunity to be heard before the NPC or a subcommittee thereof, appointed for the purpose of considering expulsion.

              • mrbigcheese [he/him]
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                4 years ago

                There's been talk among the NPC to remove this bylaw, which I hope happens cause its 100% leftover red scare shit. Also NPCs are literally telling people to just join other demcent orgs if they want, this hasn't really ever been enforced as far as I know. I think there was a trot group that got kicked out for doing something weird with a caucus but i forget the drama about it. PSL actually has the same sort of bylaw where you're not allowed to be part of ANY other socialist org, but i mean you still can lol

                • JayTwo [any]
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                  4 years ago

                  It was actually put in at the request of the New American Movement membership, and not the more anti-Communist Harrington-ite DSOC, because NAM had a lot of trouble with a run it or ruin it style attempt by a trotskyist party, iirc the FSP.

                  I know that Refoundation had a lot of trotskyist members, because the goal of the caucus was to try to turn the DSA into a labor party, either directly or indirectly. Don't know if there were any actual shenanigans, though.

                  • mrbigcheese [he/him]
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                    4 years ago

                    I dont remember what the drama was with Refoundation, was that when the bylaw was used or did they just decide to dissolve the caucus?