• Barabas [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Any polity that claimed to be Rome was bad. Change my mind.

    • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I've always been fond of the irony that WWI was fought by, and led directly to the destruction of, the three remaining monarchies that claimed to be the successor states of Rome. Kaiser, Tsar, and the Turkish Sultan who claimed Rum among his titles.

      • Coca_Cola_but_Commie [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        How did the Tsar get off claiming to be the successor to Rome? To my knowledge the Romans never got anywhere close to Russia. If anything the Tsar should've claimed to be the successor to the Mongols.

        • Rev [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          By pretending to be the successor to Byzantium through the Orthodox faith.

          • nonononono [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            One of the Tsars also married a member of the last Byzantine dynasty. Though a member of the dynasty with a stronger claim sold the title to the king of France and also left it in his will to Ferdinand and Isabella, so the French and Spanish monarchs claimed it for a while too. You'd think monarchs with actual power would refrain from giving themselves fake titles over land they don't control, because it kind of calls into question the legitimacy of their other titles, and because it might give ideas to people who want their land. But most of them seem to love giving themselves dozens of meaningless titles.

        • lvysaur [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          How did the Tsar get off claiming to be the successor to Rome?

          white people and wewuzzery, name a more iconic combination