• SeaJ@lemm.ee
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    2 years ago

    .ml stands for Marxist-Leninist so for some reason there is generally a lot of praise for China which is closer to fascism than either of those idealogies.

    • brain_in_a_box [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I am once again asking liberals to learn that fascism doesn't mean "a thing I don't like"

      • SeaJ@lemm.ee
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        2 years ago

        It's authoritarian with large amounts of state capitalism combined with high amounts of nationalism. That sure as shit is not communist.

        • GaveUp [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          Fascist states famously sold off large amounts of state assets to capitalists. Nazi Germany even inspired a new word for this, called "privatization" because they did it so much

          It's okay to not have opinions on things you don't know. Learn so that you can create informed opinions

          • SeaJ@lemm.ee
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            2 years ago

            Quite the opposite for Nazi Germany for the most part. The corporations became a central part of the state. The alternative name that Mussolini coined for fascism was corporatism for that very reason.

                • Redcat [he/him]
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                  2 years ago

                  Well, they are right. Fascism was very much predicated on state enforced privatization. That's what 'Corporatism' means. A political ideology where society is organized like a body - corpus - and each part is sovereign. Private Companies would thereafter be the lords of their respective sectors. Fascism isn't defined by close relations between the Private and the Public sectors because that's actually true for all forms of industrialized societies. Even and in many ways especially the early adopters of industrialization. British free trade ideology was limited to the United Kingdom, while India was run as a resource and tax farming colony for the benefits of British Capital. The State, with its armies and political supremacy, is no less important there.

                  This is an important distinction to be made because Fascism was invented to enforce social harmony in face of class struggle. It is meant to subsume all political discourse of clashing interests between bosses, employees, landlords, farmers, urban workers, service workers, and so on into the body of the nation. In a fascist society you're not supposed to question the political order, as, for an example, bankers know best about the banking system which is why the State enforces their rights and power over their employees, and ensures that as much economic power is privatly held as possible.

                • Gucci_Minh [he/him]
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                  2 years ago

                  Damn you really got him kind gentlesir with this scathing correction, I tip my fedora to you

            • silent_water [she/her]
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              2 years ago

              this is historically illiterate. the term privatization was coined specifically to describe what the Nazis were doing in Germany.

            • commiecapybara [he/him, e/em/eir]
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              2 years ago

              “In return for business assistance, the Nazis hastened to give evidence of their good will by restoring to private capitalism a number of monopolies held or controlled by the state."

              In other words, the Nazis specifically took certain businesses that were formerly nationalized and then privatized them.

              For further reading:

              • SeaJ@lemm.ee
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                2 years ago

                Corporatism where the employers play a central role in the running of the state was a foundation of fascism.

            • tuga [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              You "study history" off of youtube don't you?

        • brain_in_a_box [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          I am once again asking liberals to learn that words in general have meaning beyond synonyms for "good" and "bad".

        • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Good lord you butchered each and every single term you used in this comment.

          Did you ever have a period in your life where you just shut up and listened until you felt you understood what was going on? It doesn't appear to be the case from the outside.

          Now that you're in a community that's liberated from the US-centric echo chamber you just came from no more than a month ago, it's a very good opportunity to start now!

    • AOCapitulator [they/them, she/her]
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      2 years ago

      no it doesn't lol

      .ml is the country code for Mali where the developers are from lmfao

      just lies on lies

      Edit: lmao this may not have been true hol up

    • UnicodeHamSic [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      It is whild how if you don't care what words mean you can out them in any order you like.