Some of the LinkedIn Responses are direct and on-point, and also hilariously/depressingly based depending on how you look at it:
EDIT: In hindsight, I think I should've looked into posting this in a different community.. It's closer to a silly "innovation".. soo.. is this considered FUD? I also don't support smoking or vaping, especially among kids. Original title had "privacy-violating" before the "solution".
A panopticon where it's assumed that the inmates will repeatedly smash the doors, and the prison guards will repeatedly have to order new ones.
*sips beer* ah, the cycle of business
How long before the students gamify it to see who can generate the most alerts?
In my high school they managed to rip the alarm's siren off the wall without triggering it; if these kids have even an 1/8 th of the ingenuity they had, these things aren't gonna last
It doesn't seem like there's any enforcement method, just "social influence".
In other words, they made a scoreboard.
As it was with standardized testing, so shall it be with personal behavior: the goal is not to inform the student why, but to enforce compliance.
Apparently the origins of standardized testing are surprisingly dark even for what it is: in the leadup to WW1, they wanted a way to separate the brains in the bunkers from the bodies in the trench.
I gotta finish reading Palo Alto
I’m in tech and could never take myself seriously every again if I built this.
then they'll put a cop next to each one of them and the cop will shoot the kids who come near it. that'll fix it.
i'm going by hearsay here, i dont know what school is like in the US. i know what a single school was like in about 1998, but that doesnt tell me much about the rest of the country.
but from what i hear, the US has security gates and cops in schools, and the cops regularly brutalize and arrest the kids for random bullshit.
Oh, don't worry, that's only in urban schools.
(hint: urban is a dogwhistle for Black)
That's why here, giving a student a laptop without supervision is unthinkable... Good if the school has computers at all anyway.
I'll chime in with a weird take: this is a privacy community, we are united in a sense of defending our peaceful and unproblematic browsing on the internet and sending messages to friends from lunatics who seem to want everyone treated with the suspicion of highest criminal activity. the article posted describes a "privacy infringement" onto someone who not only has already broken the rule, but strongly publicized it by making people have to smell it. the perpetrators didn't even have an expectation of privacy, so the premise is ridiculous.
I'll say it like this: if the tv detects nicotine patches on someone's skin, then i pick up the torches and pitchforks.
This may be a controversial take, but maybe we shouldn't surveil children in bathrooms full stop.
There's no indication they use cameras in there. It's most likely just a sensor for vape smoke, similar to your common fire alarm.
And if it makes bathrooms a place where everyone can breathe without inhaling nicotine, I'm all for it. This is not a serious privacy concern.
Anything that picks anything up in a bathroom is a privacy concern.
In usual schools teachers are required to walk through every bathroom once in every break because the children are hiding in there to skip going in the yard. I do think this is much more annoying though.
This. It's a sensor, detecting only a specific air type. Not a camera, not a microphone. It doesn't have to do with privacy, this is not "scan and collect data about all to punish one" and cannot be turned into one.
I'll agree it's a fuc**ing dumb idea. Like utter useless garbage. Classic capitalistic "fix behavioral trash-consumption issue with overpriced fancy tech products that sound amazing in theory and are garbage in practice, without fighting the problem at the root". Screenshot comment said tax moeny but I'm willing to bet this is some kind of private school.
SIMlink 4G
Are these sensors connected to a cell network? What the hell? More than half my life ago, when I was in high school, we had wifi...
Yeah but putting it on 4G gives them a reason to charge for continuous use of the system and lock them in to their web based proprietary platform.
also bypasses anyone in the IT Department having a shred of conscience because you don't even gotta really connect to the local network
Quite an expensive toy for the children. Because the boys will play around with it.
That looks like the emblem for my old high school, all 13+ years ago. If the kids are anything like we used to be, this will not last and will either have some one smash it, or just turn it off at the wall. Hell as pointed out, odds are the ones doing it don't give a damn and revel in the attention.
I was the smashy kid in high school, and if I encountered this dystopian bullshit I would have smashed it with a glow in my heart
I dont remember them trying this hard to get me to stop smoking cigarettes in the bathroom.
I mean that's just rude use the damn smoking section outside. (My high school had a smoking section, we'd smoke with the teachers.)
My school’s official smoking section was across the street. The unofficial ones were right underneath the outdoor cameras that couldn’t look down
