To play devils advocate, the video that's circulating is after he walked up a flight of stairs. He is old and fat so he could have just been out of breath from that.
Exertion could be a factor, but the difference between this and just being generally out-of-breath is apparent in the fact that he's laboring to INHALE.
The question is whether he's cleared the virus. If he has, he's not going to die. And it's extremely likely that he has because he's been pumped full of high tech antibodies and everything that you can think of.
Obesity is only an issue on the path to clearing the virus, because the immune response and viral damage can both be pushed "over the edge" by obesity (obesity means higher baseline inflammation and lung dysfunction).
If the virus is truly cleared, it's not an issue. Plenty of obese people have contracted covid with 0 issues, and plenty of thin people (like myself) have issues almost 1 year later. Obesity only matters if you fit a certain immune profile to begin with. And since Trump got pumped full of antibodies, it doesn't much matter what his immune profile is.
Feel free to downvote me out of frustration anyway.
I know more about the virus than pretty much anyone, because I've been houseridden by it and reading about it since March. I've been to about 15 doctors and I know more about it than 14 of them, probably equal for the last 1.
It's very hard for some to actually test positive, because the viral counts go down extremely quickly in some people. Two weeks after the very first symptoms, your average chance of testing positive (assuming you actually had the virus) goes down to 33%, which is important because the first week of symptoms is usually so mild that people don't even consider it noticeable until retrospect.
The fact that trump tested positive means they probably caught it early, before it could do much damage.
In addition, they gave him antibodies. People who suffer more from the virus, and who shed it for longer amounts of time, are actually more likely to produce antibodies. He basically got that solution without actually having to go through the motions (and risk death)
People who have lasting dysfunction, CFS/ME, "long hauler" COVID, don't produce antibodies, but apparently clear the virus somehow. Trump is unlikely to die or suffer any lasting effects, other than possibly whatever damage has been done up until this point.
He is (probably) luckily that he got monoclonal antibodies, especially so early after testing positive.
There’s basically two ways the body fights off the virus - lymphocytes (innate immune system) and antibodies (adaptive immune system). It generally takes the body about two weeks to formulate a blueprint to mount an antibody response, In the mean time you’re relying on innate immunity.
On the other hand Trump’s Covid seems to have progressed to severe very quickly (lung infiltration, treatment with dexamethasone), so even the fact that he received monoclonal antibodies might have been too little too late. It will be really interesting to see what happens at day 8-10 of symptoms.
Also the preliminary data from the Phase II trials of the antibody treatment Trump received was mostly based on younger, healthier patients. It’s not clear how effective it would be in a 74 year old with underlying health conditions.
Dude's jacked on 'roids. He should be able to spin windmills. If he's still choking now, he's got problems that Walter Reed won't be able to fix at his White House bedside.
To play devils advocate, the video that's circulating is after he walked up a flight of stairs. He is old and fat so he could have just been out of breath from that.
Exertion could be a factor, but the difference between this and just being generally out-of-breath is apparent in the fact that he's laboring to INHALE.
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The question is whether he's cleared the virus. If he has, he's not going to die. And it's extremely likely that he has because he's been pumped full of high tech antibodies and everything that you can think of.
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Obesity is only an issue on the path to clearing the virus, because the immune response and viral damage can both be pushed "over the edge" by obesity (obesity means higher baseline inflammation and lung dysfunction).
If the virus is truly cleared, it's not an issue. Plenty of obese people have contracted covid with 0 issues, and plenty of thin people (like myself) have issues almost 1 year later. Obesity only matters if you fit a certain immune profile to begin with. And since Trump got pumped full of antibodies, it doesn't much matter what his immune profile is.
Feel free to downvote me out of frustration anyway.
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Supposedly he was not cleared to go and just said fuck it. I'm out of here
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We’re not downvoting you out of frustration, we’re downvoting you because you’re wrong.
No was has he cleared the virus yet. That doesn’t mean he’s going to die, but the timeline isn’t right.
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I know more about the virus than pretty much anyone, because I've been houseridden by it and reading about it since March. I've been to about 15 doctors and I know more about it than 14 of them, probably equal for the last 1.
It's very hard for some to actually test positive, because the viral counts go down extremely quickly in some people. Two weeks after the very first symptoms, your average chance of testing positive (assuming you actually had the virus) goes down to 33%, which is important because the first week of symptoms is usually so mild that people don't even consider it noticeable until retrospect.
The fact that trump tested positive means they probably caught it early, before it could do much damage.
In addition, they gave him antibodies. People who suffer more from the virus, and who shed it for longer amounts of time, are actually more likely to produce antibodies. He basically got that solution without actually having to go through the motions (and risk death)
People who have lasting dysfunction, CFS/ME, "long hauler" COVID, don't produce antibodies, but apparently clear the virus somehow. Trump is unlikely to die or suffer any lasting effects, other than possibly whatever damage has been done up until this point.
He is (probably) luckily that he got monoclonal antibodies, especially so early after testing positive.
There’s basically two ways the body fights off the virus - lymphocytes (innate immune system) and antibodies (adaptive immune system). It generally takes the body about two weeks to formulate a blueprint to mount an antibody response, In the mean time you’re relying on innate immunity.
On the other hand Trump’s Covid seems to have progressed to severe very quickly (lung infiltration, treatment with dexamethasone), so even the fact that he received monoclonal antibodies might have been too little too late. It will be really interesting to see what happens at day 8-10 of symptoms.
Also the preliminary data from the Phase II trials of the antibody treatment Trump received was mostly based on younger, healthier patients. It’s not clear how effective it would be in a 74 year old with underlying health conditions.
Dude's jacked on 'roids. He should be able to spin windmills. If he's still choking now, he's got problems that Walter Reed won't be able to fix at his White House bedside.