https://fxtwitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1838581688017846328
It'll be so fucking funny if the remaining Avatar movies are unintelligible AI slop that also bring this world a little closer to being a lifeless husk
Corridor digital made an AI avatar movie and it was better than most of what major studios put out.
well my days of not taking James Cameron seriously are certainly coming to a middle.
Huh. I really liked the nature vibes of that one and the anti extractive colonialism message. Could have done without the white savior angle though.
Yeah but when they're talking about AI here they're really just talking about a guessing machine they're not actually talking about AI
Isn't he supposed to be an infamous perfectionist with his work?
I guess he might be the 0.001% of AI users who can actually get something usable out of the tools because he's willing to hogtie and drag it through the streets until it does exactly what he wants but like
You have shitzillion dollar CGI industries at your beck and call who can actually make 3D assets the regular way lmao why would you bother browbeating the slop machine instead
A lot of people here are missing the funniest thing about this: SAI is floundering, has lost most of its tech talent, and suffered hard to the double punch of SD3 sucking complete shit and Flux showing up like a month later and being everything people had expected SD3 to be but better. SAI has also been pivoting away from the open source release model that got them literally all of the attention they've gotten in the first place.
So it looks like James Cameron's role with this would be trying to use his reputation to grift more investor money to keep the company that now doesn't have the engineers responsible for all the popular Stable Diffusion models anymore afloat. I wonder if he knows he's hopping onto a failing grift or if they've successfully tricked him into thinking there's anything of value left in SAI?
Oh god you're right lol
SD3 was such a flop I actually completely forgot all that even happened
Yeah. They probably wined and dined him to try and get people to think their failing company still has some merit. This is a very common part of the tech grift, they find some celebrity to endorse them to get more money before they finally cut and run.
CGI 3 decades ago has nothing to do with what CGI is today lol. Its like comparing the fucking lumiere brother's cinematographe and a camera from the company RED.
Chris Roberts found a way to have GenX rich nerds to pay for his vacations.
moreover, cgi 3 decades ago had nothing to do with stealing people's art today and presenting it as your own as long as it goes through a computer rube goldberg machine
correct. i use AI art by feeding my work into it and fucking around with it.
I'm pretty sure he has already done like two "4k remasters" where he just took whatever the latest blu-ray was then upscaled and denoised/grained it with AI so it looks like dogshit.
Imagine all the little freak Glup Shittos that would be added in via AI if Lucas hadn't sold to Disney lmao
Edit: Well, I guess now we just have the digital corpses of OT actors edited into shit indefinitely
The Aliens one is ok, it adds a bunch of errors but doesn't change or ruin the movie. The True Lies one looks like shit.
I am excited for two generations of tech to go buy and I can just click a button and get Studio Ghibli's Aliens.
bahaha... he picked the worst company to join.. the one that shot its shot and is pretty much done for
Nah, now shit is really gonna pop off. I am excited. Cause as much as this hurts artists it will eventually hurt the studios the most. And after all that settles we can just buy a cheap Chinese solar pannel to give us infinite cheap treats
Dude I have an idea it’s so cool just chew some glass dude it would be so funny
Everything is getting worse all the time. We can at least enjoy it a little. Democratization of the tools of artistic creation has historically only led to better art
Having a program make art for you isnt democratizing the tools of art. The artist who created the Mona Lisa was Da Vinci. The merchant who gave Da Vinci money and said “paint a picture of my wife in front of a landscape” was the artist’s patron. You are not the artist when you tell the plagiarism machine to make a picture for you. You are the patron. This is obvious and self-evident.
You say that. Picture Ao3 after robust AI video tools are widely available. I am not hurt that I will be able to get a superwholock episode of Seinfeld with the real actors reading terrible dialog written by a 12 year old girl then they all kiss.
Will I find you there on r/neoliberal? Cause you seem to be mad that AI interferes with people's ability to make money.
I am here trying to be grillpilled about it. More people will have more treats in ways less reliant on the societal superstructure. That prefigures some amount of people's art and culture. Which is good for the revolutionary consciousness. Overall it is a small thing with interesting possible effects. I see it as possibly being enriching and liberator to the spirit of the common worker and that is p cool if that happens.
Artists are proletariat who sell their labour. AI tech bros are a bourgeois who steal the artist’s labour and profit from it. Again, this is really obvious to the point where I don’t know if you’re arguing in bad faith.
Yes and AI represents more people getting to make art. It will be like when digital art replaced regular art. People still love old kinds of art but now more people will be able to make more things and that is in the end better for everyone involved.
Yes and AI represents more people getting to make art.
But they’re not getting to make art they’re having a plagiarism machine make it for them. A person at a restaurant is not a cook because he orders the food. And the means of production for art are a pencil and paper, it’s already pretty fucking accessible.
that is in the end better for everyone involved.
Destroying the environment at a staggering pace and and giving bourgeois a reason to devalue the labour of artists, writers, programmers, musicians, lawyers and god knows how many other types of worker is not a net good for the world. You just want your treats and you don’t wanna feel bad about it.
Every indication is that by the time the tools are ready for mainstream adoption in terms of photoshop the code will be optimized enough you don't have to run it on unholy asemblages of parts. Looking st thr stuff gpt4 puts out. It would take years of gpt2 processing. If we crunch that down as engery savings we cna hope gpt5 will be abel to just use long term storage instead of processing. At least for consumer grade stuff. As to the rest, you can't blame AI. Capitlaism was doing that anyway. Every kind of professional art has in a rough state lately. The issue here is techbros actually made a new tech that works. If they didn't they woudl have just found an innovate way to exploit labor further. So this isn't as bad as it could have been
I took this post and asked an AI to restate it to me with slightly more honesty
no dude artists and programmers and musicians and actors and lawyers and all desk jobs are doing bad anyway so it doesn’t matter if AI makes it worse I’m not Maija it worse it’s capitalism making it worse it’s not me bro it’s the tech bros it’s capitalism it’s not my fault dude I’m not hurting the environment dude it’s not TREATS I NEED MY TREATS GIVE ME MY TREATS
Most art sucks. scroll through deviant art you know I am right. This is a toy that will eventually let non-artists make art that sucks. Which is fun. It would still require an artist to make AI art come out well. Where you are at emotionally is where the old animators were when flash player came out. Did skilled animators lose their position in the market? Do we get to see cool.new linds of animation and ideas now? Was the proliferation of kinds of animation we get to see worth it? Are the animators who still work miserably exploited anyway? Everything is always gonna get worse all the time. Having a thing that lets more people enjoy art seems like a better outcome than the usual enshittification we expect. I am not sure where you disagree with me. Lets look at a case study. One of the big vfx channels on YouTube, corridor, sometimes uses AI to help streamline production for their videos. Is that bad?
James "Avatar is if the natives actually fought back unlike IRL" Cameron? He already had terrible opinions.
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