Struggle session engage. Post your pathetic arguments so that I and the other China Good Posters can dismantle them and you can learn.

Key points:

  • China is a democracy. It is arguably the most functional and responsive democracy in a major country today. Its citizens consider it more democratic than the citizens of almost any other country do their own.

  • China is on a clear path to socialism and economic justice. No nation in history has ever reduced poverty in anything like the way China is doing it.

  • The vast majority of people in the PRC support the CPC. This is not due to being brainwashed. Americans are brainwashed and still hate their government.

  • Almost everything you hear about China in the West sits on a spectrum between malicious misrepresentation to outright fabrication with no basis in reality.

  • China's ascension to the premiere global power is an extremely good thing for world peace and the global socialist movement. While China does not actively support other socialisms (sadly it's not as good as the USSR in this regard) it does not do imperialism. China will allow socialisms around the world to flourish simply by not actively crushing them like the US and Europe.

  • CommieGirl69 [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    The bullet points are good but you need to back up the democracy stuff more because it’s not really widely known how regular Chinese people participate in politics.

    i don't know much about how the system itself works, but i think we have some weird normative conceptions of democracy that aren't very helpful and this is the wrong way to go about it tbh

    i only consider 2 basic things when i'm thinking about democracy to avoid falling into normative stuff:

    1. we can't define anything as a straight up democracy or dictatorship, because like everything in reality these values exist in degrees

    2. the more responsive the government is to popular demands, the more democratic i consider it to be

    the chinese government is pretty responsive to popular demands, much more so than mine (brazil), so i don't really mind how they're elected or acquire administrative powers or whatever