Struggle session engage. Post your pathetic arguments so that I and the other China Good Posters can dismantle them and you can learn.

Key points:

  • China is a democracy. It is arguably the most functional and responsive democracy in a major country today. Its citizens consider it more democratic than the citizens of almost any other country do their own.

  • China is on a clear path to socialism and economic justice. No nation in history has ever reduced poverty in anything like the way China is doing it.

  • The vast majority of people in the PRC support the CPC. This is not due to being brainwashed. Americans are brainwashed and still hate their government.

  • Almost everything you hear about China in the West sits on a spectrum between malicious misrepresentation to outright fabrication with no basis in reality.

  • China's ascension to the premiere global power is an extremely good thing for world peace and the global socialist movement. While China does not actively support other socialisms (sadly it's not as good as the USSR in this regard) it does not do imperialism. China will allow socialisms around the world to flourish simply by not actively crushing them like the US and Europe.

  • yeahhhhhhhhhboiii [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    Please give this a watch, its a PBS documentary that was banned from being released because it was too pro-beijing.

    This goes into the issue of poverty alleviation in China, and why it has to be done.

    You make the point that they're moving away from a way of life where they've been for generations, into factories etc. But, have you considered that the land in China is not always amenable to farming? Many farmers in China that are still very poor have land that are frankly shit for farming. They barely eek out their survival, and they are isolated from the rest of the country, for generations. This kind of poverty is truly soul-destroying. Getting ill is a death sentence, and a bad harvest could sentence your entire family to death.

    The next point I wanted to refute was that everyone is being sent to factories to work. This is not true, and many times the farmers are simply relocated to better land to farm. Not all of them become factory workers, there are other jobs available in China, such as working in the service industry.

    And also, please don't assume all factories are like Foxconn, that taiwanese company is incredibly extreme compared to the other factories in China. Nowadays, factories in China are a lot more modern.

    • gammison [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      That documentary was not banned from release, it was shown once, then pulled due to a problem with funding the documentary. PBS explicitly said there was no problem with editorial integrity except with the funding. There's definitely some ideological fuckery going on, but the thing is not banned in any way.

      • yeahhhhhhhhhboiii [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        It's a brilliant cover isn't it?

        Perfectly filmed and edited, all ready to go.

        Pulled from cables, because suddenly, funding becomes a problem.

    • hirsute [comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      video link seems to be broken, is there another source? (or is my internet bad...very possible)

        • hirsute [comrade/them]
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          4 years ago

          I get random 500 errors from invidious, probably just too many incoming connections or something

      • Yun [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Mega link: https://mega.nz/file/YagzVZTZ#vS7dPwnv5DVsbaB_GP4t3I61CWFzxdIRxix9ivHDsgI