Struggle session engage. Post your pathetic arguments so that I and the other China Good Posters can dismantle them and you can learn.

Key points:

  • China is a democracy. It is arguably the most functional and responsive democracy in a major country today. Its citizens consider it more democratic than the citizens of almost any other country do their own.

  • China is on a clear path to socialism and economic justice. No nation in history has ever reduced poverty in anything like the way China is doing it.

  • The vast majority of people in the PRC support the CPC. This is not due to being brainwashed. Americans are brainwashed and still hate their government.

  • Almost everything you hear about China in the West sits on a spectrum between malicious misrepresentation to outright fabrication with no basis in reality.

  • China's ascension to the premiere global power is an extremely good thing for world peace and the global socialist movement. While China does not actively support other socialisms (sadly it's not as good as the USSR in this regard) it does not do imperialism. China will allow socialisms around the world to flourish simply by not actively crushing them like the US and Europe.

  • Bedandsofa [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I understand you can argue that they are doing some sort of NEP like Lenin did,

    I’d argue that they did something like the NEP in the 1980’s, and just like with the original NEP there was a very clear risk to workers and peasants that pro-capitalist elements could be strengthened. Unlike with the original NEP, in China those risks played out to their conclusion, and capitalist relations are now the dominant mode of production in China. The state in China plays a much more muscular role than basically all bourgeois states, but fundamentally it protects capitalist relations.

    Pretty eye opening to me personally, was looking at the specifics of their coronavirus response: the massive injections into the stock market, large amounts of loans to small businesses, and tax cuts/incentives for large corporations. Very similar methods to what western capitalist governments did to prop up their capitalist economies through crisis. The costs of capitalist crisis, will, of course, fall on the working class.