Edward Snowden says autobiography has been censored in China
www.theguardian.com
Sections on democracy and privacy appear to be missing in Chinese edition of Permanent Record

Can't go allowing Western propaganda about "personal liberty" to interfere with our grand plans. But we're definitely not authoritarian. You will grow to love the options we give you.

    • GlacialTurtle [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      Did you? Like did you read the book and these parts or you just read a fucking Guardian article and got mad at le winnie the pooh cencorship? Why do you act as if you did some deep dive on the issue. You linked a bloody Guardian article and a reddit china bad picture.

      The passages were posted by Snowden. People translated them. Some refer to him being assigned to investigating possible attempts at hacking/intrusion by the Chinese government for example. This is in the book referencing western countries doing the same, so there is no "China is therefore uniquely bad".

      Also, I didn't link to the article, and you're the one claiming there's a deeper analysis that justifies removal of sections of the book.

      More like “every single leftist project worth a damn resorted to mass intelligence suveillence and censorship to even survive and stabilize when existing inside a western liberal capitalistic hegemony and under its attack, let alone a billion people one during the start of a second cold war”. But hey it seems reading comprehension isnt your thing

      Mass surveillance is not necessary, actually. Various programs were in fact found to make it more difficult for the various intelligence agencies to do their job, to the point that some programs were literally just shut down quietly because they were ineffective and didn't yield much of worth. But coming to such a conclusion requires actual research and understanding, rather than "western imperialism blah blah material conditions blah blah hegemony" as go to excuses when you don't know much about the topic and you're literally defending mass surveillance of innocent civilians.

        • GlacialTurtle [none/use name]
          7·
          4 years ago

          Why the fuck should i care about what snowden has to say in his analysis. He is a libertarian and his concepts are informed from that basis, especially with them coming from him being “assinged” to investigate Chinese government activity

          I don't know dude, someone who had first hand experience working as a contractor for the NSA, who exposed the mass surveillance they were doing, who was then persecuted by the US government to the point the US deliberately stranded him in Russia sounds pretty interesting to me. Sounds like someone who'd be worth listening to on how governments spy on innocent citizens.

          Yes but thats mostly something almost exclussively had to do with the chornic and huge issue of with overbloated Soviet bureocracy on these (and every ) sector…not about the nature ,necessity and usefullness of mass suveillence programs or cencorship practices at any or all capacities that existed. Just that it was structured at an excess and self defeating way which is pretty normal once you know about late soviet bureocracy.That point has nothing to do with the “X and Y werentr necessary actually”.

          lolwut?

          Literally we know mass surveillance isn't effective. I'm not talking anything to do with soviet era surveillance.

          https://www.propublica.org/article/whats-the-evidence-mass-surveillance-works-not-much