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  • MiraculousMM [he/him, any]M
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    4 years ago

    I get your point, and I agree that the continuing discussion around the issue is unproductive in a terminally-online way.

    In the same vein, it's entirely possible to care about more than one thing at a time.

      • Bread_In_Baltimore [he/him]
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        I mean how often do we have discussions this deep and involved about US Imperialism? The closest we come is china struggle sessions and honestly China is fine with or without us. Let's be honest, to 90% of the western left, pronouns issues are a "real" issue whereas something like genocide in Yemen is a back burner issue that we virtue signal disapproval of. It's not that I think we shouldn't give a shit about trans issues, because as you said we can care about more than one thing. The issue is that we will spend years struggling about how to hurt people's feelings less in interpersonal interactions and not doing anything to help the billions of people ground into a paste by capitalism and imperialism. It's because western leftists aren't revolutionary, we are mostly lifestylists concerned with our own personal moral purity. I hate it because I don't know what to do about it.

        • Redcloak [none/use name]
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          Let’s be honest, to 90% of the western left, pronouns issues are a “real” issue whereas something like genocide in Yemen is a back burner issue that we virtue signal disapproval of.

          It's sad to say but predominately white, Western posters are always gonna devote more energy to online minutiae than they will to life-and-death issues that only affect the global south.

          • Bread_In_Baltimore [he/him]
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            Apparently "building an inclusive space for the movement" means setting up a laundry list of social rules one must adhere to that are unpalatable to 99.97% of the world population. We must be the woke vanguard and all the ignorant bigots in countries we bomb and subjugate need to do better. They need to get on our level if they want liberation.

      • cumwaffle [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        while you trans whine about dumb shit like pronouns there's people out there with REAL issues!!

        im an ally btw

      • ElectricMonk [she/her,undecided]
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        4 years ago

        Presenting this a purely a trans issue ignores that
        a. the male normative culture of the internet affects cis women too
        and b. not all trans people are on board with this, or believe or it’s a big issue that not everyone wants to set a pronoun