That is not what your original comment was about at all. You said the entire discourse was wreckers unwilling to face personal discomfort. The personal discomfort you want them to deal with is being misgendered or not having their pronouns used.
I think there's some level of misunderstanding here. I was specifically referring to the people behind the myriad posts today with the general message of "anyone who doesn't set their pronouns is a TERF/transphobe/piece of shit and needs to leave this website."
Everyone can and should be able to choose pronouns they're comfortable with, and expect other people to respect that. The people I'm referring to are the ones who would kick people out of this space for not wanting to label themselves with a specific gender identity just for posting.
No one should be kicked off for not wanting to use pronouns (which are gender signifiers, not gender identity.) If you choose not to set your pronouns despite not having a problem with gender identity whatsoever- the most common group of people who do this being cis men who just can't be bothered- what exactly is the motivation there and why should I respect it?
Yes, I understand. People want to have everyone set a pronoun. I think cis people should to normalize pronoun use. I also think we should not force anyone to box themselves into the use of a pronoun. The split right now is between people who think it's fine to leave it blank vs people who think someone who does not want to publically specify a pronoun should use "none". I think saying none is also a choice we should not force. I think a conversation is healthy and normal. You seem to think even the discussion is so polarizing it must be a purposeful wreck attempt. You also framed this as a matter of personal discomfort when that is super trivializing.
I was summarizing the stuggle sesh. My entire problem is with the framing of the original comment which makes the entire conversation seem driven by like purposefully negative actors. Acting as if TALKING about pronouns is going to collapse the user base of chapo or something.
That is not what your original comment was about at all. You said the entire discourse was wreckers unwilling to face personal discomfort. The personal discomfort you want them to deal with is being misgendered or not having their pronouns used.
I think there's some level of misunderstanding here. I was specifically referring to the people behind the myriad posts today with the general message of "anyone who doesn't set their pronouns is a TERF/transphobe/piece of shit and needs to leave this website."
Everyone can and should be able to choose pronouns they're comfortable with, and expect other people to respect that. The people I'm referring to are the ones who would kick people out of this space for not wanting to label themselves with a specific gender identity just for posting.
No one should be kicked off for not wanting to use pronouns (which are gender signifiers, not gender identity.) If you choose not to set your pronouns despite not having a problem with gender identity whatsoever- the most common group of people who do this being cis men who just can't be bothered- what exactly is the motivation there and why should I respect it?
Nobody is being misgendered though. Are you sure you understand what this stuggle sesh is about?
Yes, I understand. People want to have everyone set a pronoun. I think cis people should to normalize pronoun use. I also think we should not force anyone to box themselves into the use of a pronoun. The split right now is between people who think it's fine to leave it blank vs people who think someone who does not want to publically specify a pronoun should use "none". I think saying none is also a choice we should not force. I think a conversation is healthy and normal. You seem to think even the discussion is so polarizing it must be a purposeful wreck attempt. You also framed this as a matter of personal discomfort when that is super trivializing.
Right. Which is not the same thing as misgendering users, which is what you've been posting about
I was summarizing the stuggle sesh. My entire problem is with the framing of the original comment which makes the entire conversation seem driven by like purposefully negative actors. Acting as if TALKING about pronouns is going to collapse the user base of chapo or something.
Well I'm not the op that you originally commented to so lol
I meant the original comment sorry. You responded to my response to the OP so I mixed you two up. Point stands- I'll edit it to read better