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  • Bread_In_Baltimore [he/him]
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    First of all, I literally started that comment with "I don't misgender people" so idk why people keep saying "just use the pronouns". I do.

    Second, my problem is that western leftists care way more about the "serious mental harm" of people in the global north over the absolute physical slaughter of people in the global south, or even people in marginalized communities in the global north. The social gatekeeping is an exercise in extreme privilege that is severely fucking grim.

    • evilbitch [she/her]
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      You can't compare two distinct issues like this by doing a well what about this also serious issue. No one here disagrees western leftists should help the global south. Why can you also not work on your own biases? You really seem to be disregarding the identities of people as unserious and a waste of time.

      • Bread_In_Baltimore [he/him]
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        I don't need to work on personal biases lol. I'm not a transphobe. I don't think they're invalid, I don't believe in biological essentialism, I respect people's pronouns and I stand up for trans people when they're disrespected. I have been for a while, starting with 10 years ago when I made a scene at a diner after they kicked out a trans woman for using the women's room. People keep trying to read transphobia out of a genuine concern for the navel-gazing of the western left.

        And I'm sorry, but people's identities being validated is objectively less important than people's physical bodies being protected. That doesn't mean you can't care about both, I'm not saying that. I'm saying that there is a social gatekeeping where you create teams where "if you abide by all these social rules you can be on our side, otherwise fuck you". We will spend endless days talking about pronouns but people get bored talking about things that are 100% essential for any liberators movement to address.

        • evilbitch [she/her]
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          It isn't navel-gazing to have a discourse on gender, or neo-pronouns, or mandatory vs recommended vs available pronoun use. It's actually important work that helps us build an inclusive community. If you are free from bias then just step aside if you don't want to get involved in it. Why come on to de-rail the discussion by making the point that there are in your opinion more important things to talk about. Go work on protecting people's physical bodies instead of complaining that people are interested in validation of people's identities- which btw is also a preventative measure of allyship. Any liberation movement must have space for social rules to at least protect people from being done harm. This is essential- so don't smear it by complaining about "deer pronouns" which if you are capable of respecting you should just do and stop there.